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Finally got to the range today.

I really like the 1911. The range was pretty busy today, and the 1911 got a lot of comments.

I probably put 150 rounds through it and it didn't have a single hiccup.

I loves it. :embarrassed:

I didn't mention Mrs. P's newest toy.

The same day I got the 1911, she got a Diamondback DB15 like this.

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She ran about 90 rounds through it today. She also got a scope for it, but the store wasn't able to bore sight it, so the first 20 rounds or so we're just trying to figure out where she was hitting.

By the 60th round, she was starting to get it dialed in pretty well, and had about a 2" grouping at 50 yards.

The last 30 rounds were just for fun. :)

Yay for the 1911, and Mrs P's new toy is sweet - gotta love a nice AR.
 
Yay for the 1911, and Mrs P's new toy is sweet - gotta love a nice AR.

I think I'm the only gun nut on earth who isn't into Glocks or AR's.

With spring gobbler season approaching, I've been eyeing up some 3.5" magnum camo 12 gauges. I have several shotguns, but none of them are purpose made turkey guns. Probably time to remedy that.

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Gobble....Gobble.....gulp?!!!?
 
I was not into g/blocks for the longest time. That changed when I got 26 recently. It fits my hand perfectly and the simplicity of the innards and action is simply genius. The fact that most parts are interchangeable between models is another plus.

I like ARs as well.
 
Re: glocks and ARs

They're great designs but they're just fugly IMO. I think guns should be sleek and graceful...non gangly or blocky.

I get that they represent more of a "form follows function" mentality, but I guess I dont expect to ever need so much function that I would give up on form completely.
Plus I mainly got into guns through hunting and in my state you cant hunt with semi autos of any kind except for shotguns
 
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i have NEVER been a fan of the .223 as a battle rifle cartridge. the damn things are just barely a decent VARMINT round.
a 7.62x39 (AK 47) is a far superior battle cartridge and the 7.62 NATO should have NEVER been retired.
my 3 cents
 
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i have NEVER been a fan of the .223 as a battle rifle cartridge. the damn things are just barely a decent VARMINT round.
a 7.62x39 (AK 47) is a far superior battle cartridge and the 7.62 NATO should have NEVER been retired.
my 3 cents

There are a lot of AR owners in my state pushing for the laws to change so that theyre allowed for hunting. I really really hope that doesnt happen.
The last thing we need is a bunch of tacti-cool knuckleheads spraying the deer population with underpowered surplus FMJ rounds that maim but dont kill
 
There are a lot of AR owners in my state pushing for the laws to change so that theyre allowed for hunting. I really really hope that doesnt happen.
The last thing we need is a bunch of tacti-cool knuckleheads spraying the deer population with underpowered surplus FMJ rounds that maim but dont kill

yea. i'm originally from Pa. and they solved part of the problem by requiring all deer rifles to be "manually operated actions". NO semiauto's. period.
and then they have requirement of minimum caliber, .24, i think.
AR's have NO PLACE in big game hunting. varmints, fine. other than a good head shot, a .223 will NOT put down a large whitetail.
 
yea. i'm originally from Pa. and they solved part of the problem by requiring all deer rifles to be "manually operated actions". NO semiauto's. period.
and then they have requirement of minimum caliber, .24, i think.
AR's have NO PLACE in big game hunting. varmints, fine. other than a good head shot, a .223 will NOT put down a large whitetail.
Well, a .223 will put down a whitetail, just not quickly. That's not ok.

You can of course get AR style rifles chambered in several big game calibers. Or, one could use an AK for hunting. Both, IMO, would look ridiculous out in the field. That said, who cares what it looks like as long as it works well.

We have a mag capacity limit for big game hunting rifles; I believe it's 6 (might be 5, not sure). I use an old Marlin 30-30 lever action anyway.
 
Well, a .223 will put down a whitetail, just not quickly. That's not ok.

You can of course get AR style rifles chambered in several big game calibers. Or, one could use an AK for hunting. Both, IMO, would look ridiculous out in the field. That said, who cares what it looks like as long as it works well.

We have a mag capacity limit for big game hunting rifles; I believe it's 6 (might be 5, not sure). I use an old Marlin 30-30 lever action anyway.

We have mag capacity limits of some sort too.....I think 4 or 5 rounds.
My biggest concern with the AR hunting proponents is that they bought this rifle for whatever reason and now realize that they cant do anything with it. If they were legitimately interested in hunting....why wouldnt they have purchased a bolt action rifle?
 
We have mag capacity limits of some sort too.....I think 4 or 5 rounds.
My biggest concern with the AR hunting proponents is that they bought this rifle for whatever reason and now realize that they cant do anything with it. If they were legitimately interested in hunting....why wouldnt they have purchased a bolt action rifle?
There are plenty of semi-auto hunting rifles though. Someone I hunt with has a semi-auto 30.06 - not sure which model, but it's pretty old and definitely a hunting rifle. I also know there are a lot of folks that use converted older military rifles for hunting. As long as the mag limit is observed and the caliber is sufficient for the game, it really shouldn't matter. Some folks really like their AR style guns, and they can easily swap in a different caliber by exchanging the upper; more power to 'em I guess. Something can be said for having a consistent platform across calibers.
 
There are plenty of semi-auto hunting rifles though. Someone I hunt with has a semi-auto 30.06 - not sure which model, but it's pretty old and definitely a hunting rifle. I also know there are a lot of folks that use converted older military rifles for hunting. As long as the mag limit is observed and the caliber is sufficient for the game, it really shouldn't matter. Some folks really like their AR style guns, and they can easily swap in a different caliber by exchanging the upper; more power to 'em I guess. Something can be said for having a consistent platform across calibers.

Pennsylvania does not allow "external" magazines and does not allow semiauto firearms for deer hunting. they do this for safety. if you've ever hunted up in those mountains and are a decent marksman, you would strongly agree with those rules.
opening day up in the A.N.F. is like a battlefield. there are so many idiots with rifles shooting at anything moving, it's staggering. those asstards will take a shot at a deer, miss and then keep trying to hit it as it runs off thru the woods, generally firing 3 more times.
imagine how that would go with a semiauto rifle and 10 round mag. there would be more hunters killed than deer.

i don't hunt there anymore and haven't for like 10 years. i go up, but stay in the lodge until the shooting stops, around noon.
 
Pennsylvania does not allow "external" magazines and does not allow semiauto firearms for deer hunting. they do this for safety. if you've ever hunted up in those mountains and are a decent marksman, you would strongly agree with those rules.
opening day up in the A.N.F. is like a battlefield. there are so many idiots with rifles shooting at anything moving, it's staggering. those asstards will take a shot at a deer, miss and then keep trying to hit it as it runs off thru the woods, generally firing 3 more times.
imagine how that would go with a semiauto rifle and 10 round mag. there would be more hunters killed than deer.

i don't hunt there anymore and haven't for like 10 years. i go up, but stay in the lodge until the shooting stops, around noon.
Yikes. Scary.
 
We don't hunt, so the small caliber and high capacity magazine make no difference.

Our guns are all just for shooting at the range.

That being said, while I do prefer the 1911 by a wide margin, I still like the Glock just fine.

The AR was nice just because you didn't have to spend as much time reloading.
 
There are plenty of semi-auto hunting rifles though. Someone I hunt with has a semi-auto 30.06 - not sure which model, but it's pretty old and definitely a hunting rifle. I also know there are a lot of folks that use converted older military rifles for hunting. As long as the mag limit is observed and the caliber is sufficient for the game, it really shouldn't matter. Some folks really like their AR style guns, and they can easily swap in a different caliber by exchanging the upper; more power to 'em I guess. Something can be said for having a consistent platform across calibers.

My concern isnt the rifle itself but the motives of the people who bought one when they knew they couldnt hunt with it.
It was great for blasting away at the range but not for hunting. They made a conscious decision not to buy a legal hunting rifle that was somewhat less fun to blast away with. Thats fine. Different strokes, etc.

I just dont want all these guys who prioritized "blasting away" over "hunting in accordance with applicable regulations" in the woods with me come sunup on the first day of deer season.
 
ARs are great for popping the heads off of prarie dogs ,and nailing coyotes. I carried an M16 A-1 in the Corps, so I do still like the platform.
 
Yikes. Scary.

i was in a local walmart near there, getting my deer license when two guys walked up to the counter. (one about 30 and the other, new hunter, about 20-ish)
the younger one was getting a deer rifle. the counter guy hands him a bolt action 30-06 with a scope already on it. (i'm sure it was not even bore sighted)
and the 'kid' takes and looks it over and around. then he says "yea, this looks great. umm.....WHERE DO THE BULLETS GO?"
this was TWO DAYS BEFORE OPENING DAY.
that was just about it for me.
 
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