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[mongooz]

Legal if you have a NFA stamp.
Look into a trust for max flexibility but no matter how you do it, buy the time you thread your 'host' or get new ones, go through the process & buy your suppressor, you're going elbow deep into your wallet. You can get a trust going to as low as $99

according to the ruger site, several of their pistols & rifles are ALREADY threaded for the suppressor and besides filling out Form 4 and a check for 200 all you have to do then is wait for the ATF approval, which they say can take a couple months. and the supporessor retails for 449, so real price should be around 300 (maybe).

 

[Lerxst]

according to the ruger site, several of their pistols & rifles are ALREADY threaded for the suppressor and besides filling out Form 4 and a check for 200 all you have to do then is wait for the ATF approval, which they say can take a couple months. and the supporessor retails for 449, so real price should be around 300 (maybe).

Individual form 4 approvals are averaging 6 months right now...trusts about 4 months.

Trusts have a couple advantages; no local law enforcement sign off or fingerprinting, the sn is registered to the trust and you can amend the trustees authorized to possess the item at any time, it also makes transfer easier to a trustee if you were to pass away. Trusts can be used for future acquisitions. Owned as an individual you must always be present when the item is out of storage and, iirc when you pass, another transfer app/fee is required to transfer ownership.

Most of the suppressor companies have a good FAQ section with the pros and cons of the various methods of going through the process.

 

[Lerxst]

Btw I'm aware of all this because I have two co-workers currently waiting on approval for their trusts.

 

[2manband]

So, I may have scratched my itch for a 1911 today.

It's a 4.25" barrel, not a 5", but the local gun shop had it for $699, which is $200 less than Gander Mountain has it on sale for.

Ruger SR1911.

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Unfortunately, it'll be at least Saturday before I get to shoot it.

Sweet...Ive seen those several places but never picked one up....always looked nice and they get good reviews

But more importantly...now that you have the 1911 itch scratched, lets work on developing your revolver itch.

Every gun collection should have a 4" double action 357 magnum in it.

Or maybe a cowboy-style single action .22.
Cant beat that for "smiles per dollar"

 

[mongooz]

Sweet...Ive seen those several places but never picked one up....always looked nice and they get good reviews

But more importantly...now that you have the 1911 itch scratched, lets work on developing your revolver itch.

Every gun collection should have a 4" double action 357 magnum in it.

Or maybe a cowboy-style single action .22.
Cant beat that for "smiles per dollar"

i think i already addressed the need for a .357 revolver

 

[2manband]

i think i already addressed the need for a .357 revolver

Yah but a Colt Python carries a pretty steep price of admission. Very few people are gonna go drop several grand on their first revolver.
A used Smith 686 might be a good option...or something Ruger.

 

[Aahzz]

I got myself a new range toy today - Beretta M9 9mm. Beautiful smooth trigger, and accurate as hell. I likes it! Here's the 1st target, 15 rounds at 7 yards:

 

[DFB]

Anyone ever fire a Stoger? They are Berretas made in Turkey from what I have heard. The local shop has a nice .45 I have been eyeing up.

 

[Aahzz]

I've heard good things about the Stoegers, but have not fired one.

 

[2manband]

I got myself a new range toy today - Beretta M9 9mm. Beautiful smooth trigger, and accurate as hell. I likes it! Here's the 1st target, 15 rounds at 7 yards:

Im gonna have to get me one of those some day. Always thought they were well styled and they have some interesting design features.

Keep seeing the retired Italian police guns come up for sale for about $300, but they have the mag release in a weird spot. Still tempting

 

[Aahzz]

Im gonna have to get me one of those some day. Always thought they were well styled and they have some interesting features.

I've found them to be the most accurate regular production pistols I've ever fired. I tend to think it's because they don't employ a tilting barrel lockup, but that could just be me - no matter the reason, I find them to shoot with beautiful accuracy. They're also overbuilt for 9mm, and due to their size/weight they recoil like a .22. I've owned a couple in the past, and had found myself really missing having one. My primary defensive guns are still M&Ps, because I prefer the consistent trigger pull and lack of manual safety for defensive usage, but in a zombie apocalypse I'd have to strongly consider the Beretta for its inherent accuracy.

 

[wagdog]

I was in the service when they switched over to the m9. I always liked them - solid gun. I never fired one in the military though.

 

[2manband]

I've found them to be the most accurate regular production pistols I've ever fired. I tend to think it's because they don't employ a tilting barrel lockup, but that could just be me - no matter the reason, I find them to shoot with beautiful accuracy. They're also overbuilt for 9mm, and due to their size/weight they recoil like a .22. I've owned a couple in the past, and had found myself really missing having one. My primary defensive guns are still M&Ps, because I prefer the consistent trigger pull and lack of manual safety for defensive usage, but in a zombie apocalypse I'd have to strongly consider the Beretta for its inherent accuracy.

There is something appealing about a full size all steel 9mm. I have a Smith and Wesson 5906 thats a real pleasure to shoot.
Its also great for cracking nuts, driving tent pegs, opening beer bottles, breaking loose rusty bolts, holding down tarps on a windy day, etc. etc.

 

[Aahzz]

There is something appealing about a full size all steel 9mm. I have a Smith and Wesson 5906 thats a real pleasure to shoot.
Its also great for cracking nuts, driving tent pegs, opening beer bottles, holding down tarps on a windy day, etc. etc.

Those 3rd Gen Smiths are some of the most underrated pistols ever made. I've owned a bunch, and they rank among my all-time favorites. If I ever had to only have 1 gun, it'd probably be a 3913. Maybe a 6906.

That said, you mentioned "all steel". The Berettas are actually aluminum framed, but still soak up the recoil - *almost* as well as a 5906. I carried a 5906 very briefly - too damn heavy for regular concealed carry....

 

[2manband]

Those 3rd Gen Smiths are some of the most underrated pistols ever made. I've owned a bunch, and they rank among my all-time favorites. If I ever had to only have 1 gun, it'd probably be a 3913. Maybe a 6906.

That said, you mentioned "all steel". The Berettas are actually aluminum framed, but still soak up the recoil - *almost* as well as a 5906. I carried a 5906 very briefly - too damn heavy for regular concealed carry....

Arent some of the earlier beretta 92s steel framed?

No matter....what I really meant was a HEAVY 9mm. Ive never gotten fatigued shooting one, only run out of ammo

I also have a 4566 thats in pretty good shape, but the 5906 is a cop trade-in so it has some cosmetic wear. Thats fine tho...it was cheap and the wear only adds to its "throw me in a toolbox" aesthetic.
After some new springs the old girl still runs like a sewing machine and is an absolute garbage disposal for low grade ammo

 

[Aahzz]

I think the early models with the frame mounted safety were steel framed - and I agree, you'll NEVER get fatigued with a big metal 9.

 

[Lerxst]

How many times has someone at the range told you about how those slides fail and kill you? It's alway diehard 1911 guys too

92s are nice shooters

 

[mongooz]

i had an italian made 92 compact years ago. i should have kept that one. :(

 

[Aahzz]

How many times has someone at the range told you about how those slides fail and kill you? It's alway diehard 1911 guys too

92s are nice shooters

I've never had someone tell me that in person, but have been told that by many an internet commando. Of course, they have no answer when one points out the fact that Beretta now has an enlarged pin that will keep the slide from flying off in the highly unlikely event of a failure.

 

[Prages]

Finally got to the range today.

I really like the 1911. The range was pretty busy today, and the 1911 got a lot of comments.

I probably put 150 rounds through it and it didn't have a single hiccup.

I loves it.

I didn't mention Mrs. P's newest toy.

The same day I got the 1911, she got a Diamondback DB15 like this.

She ran about 90 rounds through it today. She also got a scope for it, but the store wasn't able to bore sight it, so the first 20 rounds or so we're just trying to figure out where she was hitting.

By the 60th round, she was starting to get it dialed in pretty well, and had about a 2" grouping at 50 yards.

The last 30 rounds were just for fun.