OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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I haven't spoken to my right wing conservative religious sister who lives in DC since October..... my first communication with her in all that time is her and I arguing on Facebook over Planned Parenthood. While she's also posting shit like "God Bless Pence" and all of Comrade Cheetoh's other stooges. :facepalm:
 
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Mark Wein said:
Thats what I'm figuring but thats not even really that big of a deal. He did a story based on documents that were most likely faked and fed to him. He didn't seem to handle it very well but after six decades of "real" journalism this is what they hang him with?
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My uncle served with him in the Air Guard at Ellington AFB in those days. He talked a little about it when Bush was running for governor. He said the guy was fun, yet arrogant "when he was around". The uncle later became very right wing and never spoke of it again.

The truth is out there, just buried.
 
Donny needs his Twitter and TV privileges revoked until he starts actually doing his damned job and quits simply reacting to shit he's seen on an ultra-biased conservative propaganda channel.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-voter-fraud-nonsense-takes-ridiculous-turn

It’s been quite a ride for Donald Trump’s bizarre voter-fraud claims. Three weeks after winning the presidential election, the Republican said he secretly won the popular vote he lost, because of illegally cast ballots that exist only in his imagination. This week, the president repeated the claim, pointing to a second-hand anecdote from a German golfer he knows about people “who did not look as if they should be allowed to vote.”

Trump has cited a report he didn’t read and blasted its author. The White House said it wasn’t calling for an investigation and then the president said the opposite. Trump was supposed to issue some kind of executive directive yesterday on initiating a probe into a problem that doesn’t exist, only to reverse course without explanation.

It’s worth pausing from time to time to appreciate the fact that the new president of the United States isn’t just lying about details he doesn’t understand; he’s also attacking American democracy and the electoral system that put him in office.

This morning, the president made the whole mess even more farcical with another tweet.

“Look forward to seeing final results of VoteStand. Gregg Phillips and crew say at least 3,000,000 votes were illegal. We must do better!”​
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Who’s Gregg Phillips and what’s VoteStand? I’m glad you asked.

As Right Wing Watch explained, “Phillips is a longtime conservative activist who, according to his LinkedIn profile, has worked for the Mississippi and Alabama Republican parties and a pro-Newt Gingrich Super PAC, and currently sits on the board of directors of True the Vote, a group ostensibly created to root out the massive voter fraud that it has been so far unable to find. On his Twitter profile, Phillips says he is the founder of VoteStand, an app for reporting suspected voter fraud that True the Vote promoted heavily before this month’s election, despite its previous failure to uncover any evidence of widespread fraud.”
When the president of the United States says he’s looking forward to seeing the “final results” from VoteStand, Trump is effectively saying he’s inclined to ignore the actual evidence – and Secretaries of State nationwide – and instead listen to a Republican activist with an app with an unclear purpose.

For his part, Gregg Phillips claimed five days after Election Day that he’d “verified” that 3 million illegal votes were cast – a claim that’s popular with strange conspiracy websites such as Info Wars – but Philips has offered no evidence, no one has seen his data or purported algorithm, and he’s refused to provide any information to anyone about his methodology.

The president of the United States, however, seems very impressed that this GOP activist Gregg allege that “at least 3,000,000 votes were illegal.” Trump could accept reality, but he finds it far more satisfying to listen to some guy he doesn’t know making bizarre and unsubstantiated claims.

As for what led the president to publish this specific message this morning, Trump apparently saw a television segment that got him all excited. This keeps happening.​
 
GDSmithTX said:
Donny needs his Twitter and TV privileges revoked until he starts actually doing his damned job and quits simply reacting to shit he's seen on an ultra-biased conservative propaganda channel.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-voter-fraud-nonsense-takes-ridiculous-turn

It’s been quite a ride for Donald Trump’s bizarre voter-fraud claims. Three weeks after winning the presidential election, the Republican said he secretly won the popular vote he lost, because of illegally cast ballots that exist only in his imagination. This week, the president repeated the claim, pointing to a second-hand anecdote from a German golfer he knows about people “who did not look as if they should be allowed to vote.”

Trump has cited a report he didn’t read and blasted its author. The White House said it wasn’t calling for an investigation and then the president said the opposite. Trump was supposed to issue some kind of executive directive yesterday on initiating a probe into a problem that doesn’t exist, only to reverse course without explanation.

It’s worth pausing from time to time to appreciate the fact that the new president of the United States isn’t just lying about details he doesn’t understand; he’s also attacking American democracy and the electoral system that put him in office.

This morning, the president made the whole mess even more farcical with another tweet.

“Look forward to seeing final results of VoteStand. Gregg Phillips and crew say at least 3,000,000 votes were illegal. We must do better!”​
​
Who’s Gregg Phillips and what’s VoteStand? I’m glad you asked.

As Right Wing Watch explained, “Phillips is a longtime conservative activist who, according to his LinkedIn profile, has worked for the Mississippi and Alabama Republican parties and a pro-Newt Gingrich Super PAC, and currently sits on the board of directors of True the Vote, a group ostensibly created to root out the massive voter fraud that it has been so far unable to find. On his Twitter profile, Phillips says he is the founder of VoteStand, an app for reporting suspected voter fraud that True the Vote promoted heavily before this month’s election, despite its previous failure to uncover any evidence of widespread fraud.”
When the president of the United States says he’s looking forward to seeing the “final results” from VoteStand, Trump is effectively saying he’s inclined to ignore the actual evidence – and Secretaries of State nationwide – and instead listen to a Republican activist with an app with an unclear purpose.

For his part, Gregg Phillips claimed five days after Election Day that he’d “verified” that 3 million illegal votes were cast – a claim that’s popular with strange conspiracy websites such as Info Wars – but Philips has offered no evidence, no one has seen his data or purported algorithm, and he’s refused to provide any information to anyone about his methodology.

The president of the United States, however, seems very impressed that this GOP activist Gregg allege that “at least 3,000,000 votes were illegal.” Trump could accept reality, but he finds it far more satisfying to listen to some guy he doesn’t know making bizarre and unsubstantiated claims.

As for what led the president to publish this specific message this morning, Trump apparently saw a television segment that got him all excited. This keeps happening.​
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:facepalm:

This could be the most embarrassing thing our country has done and it has barely been a full week. I don't know if I can take 4 years of this. Maybe my wife can get a job a @Flamencology works. Maybe that isn't far enough away :grin:
 
jp_nyc said:
I’m considering shutting down my twitter accounts because they won’t cut him off. Allowing the POTUS to spew crazy nonsense on twitter is a threat to the security and stability of the planet. Jack Dorsey needs to step up, play dad, and take the problem toy away for the good of the family.
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I just keep tweeting back at him. I know it doesn't do anything but it makes me feel better.
 
Maddow on pipeline ruptures...why we shouldn't build the pipelines anywhere near any kind of life form. It also covers fracking issues.

I'm still amazed that the oil and coal companies put so much effort into undermining alternative fuel advancement, why not be the leaders in the field? They still control the power, but transition from dangerous and poisonous fuels to readily available energy sources. Provide training to miners and riggers to allow them to transition to these people into new long term jobs. Instead we have these people grasping at whatever they can to try to keep jobs in their dying industries. Yay for myopic attitudes toward competition.
 
Tig said:
Having watched both Woodward and Bernstein live on TV over the last few months, these guys are still active and relevant. They continue to inspire younger journalists, as does Dan Rather.
Others, like Christiane Amanpour are pushing journalism to stay neutral, yet aggressive in the pursuit of truth and holding the seat of power accountable.

Don't give up!
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Here:
https://mediamatters.org/video/2017...on-not-media-opposition-becoming-truth/215152

https://mediamatters.org/video/2017...on-s-attacks-press-were-not-going-shut/215148
 
Dogsinotpalc said:
I'm still amazed that the oil and coal companies put so much effort into undermining alternative fuel advancement, why not be the leaders in the field?
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Inertia is a big part of it. Most oil companies are old behemoths operating internationally and there are few people with the leadership skills to lead that change. But they’re also afraid of Chinese manufacturing. China is subsidizing the shit out of solar manufacturing—that’s what killed BP’s solar division and Solyndra. Even if American solar firms avoid manufacturing they still have to risk getting undercut by Chinese or Indian companies that can do all the planning and engineering with Chinese employees and only hire Americans to do installation work.
 
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