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one can only hope (and pray, if you're so inclined).
OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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one can only hope (and pray, if you're so inclined).
Lerxst
spaghetti and blankets
Rather's broadcast aired some bogus material that wasn't fact checked and later debunked by the internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy
Chad
Slender Hobbit
But it's a meme on the internet, how can it not be true?
Thats what I'm figuring but thats not even really that big of a deal. He did a story based on documents that were most likely faked and fed to him. He didn't seem to handle it very well but after six decades of "real" journalism this is what they hang him with?
Devil is Dill
Doubleplusgood
HE'S DISGRACED. PERIOD.
Lerxst
spaghetti and blankets
Well, it's a heck of a lot easier to discredit the person making the argument than to take on the argument itself where you have little ground to stand on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
Who am I kidding. My neighborhood prolly digs Trump because he's tough on potholes and hostile to "too spicy" Mexican food.
Fucking taco salad eating motherfuckers.
I had to take a "Logic and Critical Thinking" class last spring and the entire time I was thinking "hey, this should be taught in the 8th grade and not college". We'd have a much better world.
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
The whole disgraced/discredited charge against enemies in THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA is a huge talking point on the tinfoil hat Internet. Alex Jones et al. WILL NOT SHUT UP ABOUT IT.
Whenever I see those words in a headline, I start immediately scanning for telltale signs of WAKE UP SHEEPLE.
Whenever I see those words in a headline, I start immediately scanning for telltale signs of WAKE UP SHEEPLE.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
I had a logic class in 9th grade I think. Maybe 10th. At a Jesuit high school. One of my favorite classes.
VoidTerraFirma
Live to wine
If Dan Rather is "disgraced", then what is Alex Jones?
Well they don't teach it in public school in California, that I do know.
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
Standing up for LIBERTY AND AMERICANA AND THE BEST SUPPLEMENTS CREATED BY TOP EXPERTS AND SOURCED FROM TRUE ORGANIC SOURCES!!! ARRRRRRGGGGGH. I SEE ALL THIS EVIL AND DEATH AND THESE HIDEOUS SATANIC VAMPIRE BABY SACRIFICERS AND I JUST WANNA UUUHHHHH...WOOOOAH...GRRRR!!!!
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
This class used both mathematical and verbal logic, venn diagrams, etc. It was pretty cool. There is a push for critical thinking curriculum in our local public schools also. I don't know, though, if they have such a class.
They were replaying an appearance by him form 2013 on Howard Stern yesterday. I just read your post in that fucking voice of his.
Lerxst
spaghetti and blankets
I'd like to think so but my view of the struggle between rational thinking & emotional response is pretty dim theses days.
w/r/t Dan Rather, it wasn't so much that the error was a huge deal but at the time he was probably Americas' most trusted news anchor & his defense of the docs, in light of the criticisms, just broke that trust more. After leaving CBS he languished on cable-only AXS Tv for a few years trying to rebuild his field reporter cred and has done a pretty good job of staying in the political conversation w/ TV guest appearances & articles online.
jelloman
Couch'd Tater...
"A disgrace"...a very subtle distinction, I know, but a distinction all the same...
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
They were replaying an appearance by him form 2013 on Howard Stern yesterday. I just read your post in that fucking voice of his.
I've listened to, conservatively, about 200 hours of his programs and documentaries. Because I am genuinely interested in that worldview and what makes it tick.
It's a compelling, entertaining way to see yourself and your country and the future. It's based on legitimate interest in history and human potential. It's also batshit and ill-informed and shot through with political and philosophical understandings gleaned mostly from Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and maybe the Matrix if you're gonna get really intellectual.
Jones is a smart, energetic, dedicated dude...doing evil, dumb stuff because of his own anti intellectual bias and ego and CRAZED ideas about gender and masculinity.
That said, he's a near-genius when it comes to unhinged gonzo rhetoric. Like Hunter Thompson at his peak levels of great argle bargle.
I've also watched/listened to a lot of similar stuff made by way less interesting people who are way less good at it. There's a reason Jones is a star and has done work on the periphery of Hollywood. He's a talented dude. He's also bonkers and/or an intelligence agency plant/shill.
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