Chad
Slender Hobbit
The whole nomination process is a dirty thing in both parties for sure. Politics in general is a dirty business. It reminds me of sausage, I don't want to know how its made, I just want it to be delicious.
OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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The whole nomination process is a dirty thing in both parties for sure. Politics in general is a dirty business. It reminds me of sausage, I don't want to know how its made, I just want it to be delicious.
BlockInlay
Octavate.band
I'm hoping it's just coincidence, but in the past month i've seen 3 separate instances where an angry old white guy decided to get enraged in a public place. Each time it was in a store (Petco, supermarket, and a liquor store) and was a completely unacceptable reaction to a minor inconvenience or nothing at all.
Petco: guy chewed out an old lady (like sweet grandma old lady) working at the checkout because his coupon didn't work. He bitched her out and wouldn't stop, even when she asked him to please stop, on the verge of tears. The prick quit and left as soon as a store manager made his way over. I told the lady to never let an asshole ruin her day and she laughed.
Supermarket: guy started flailing his arms and raising his voice at the black girl working behind the deli counter because she didn't see him and was about to (god forbid) wait on someone else first. the dude acted like he had been passed over for a kidney transplant. then he stomped away the way my 3 year old does when he's over tired and i tell him it's time for bed.
Liquor store: watched a man's face fill with rage as he began to furiously swear and condemn a fellow customer, under his breath. he was literally swearing into his coat collar. why? because the customer (black guy) was talking on his cell phone as he perused the wine section. angry dude caught me watching him and asked, very quietly, "can you believe this? carrying on with his conversation like we're not here?" I rolled my eyes and looked away. angry dude kept going, swearing even more harshly but still quietly. coward. I calmly announced to no one in particular that the only person bothering anyone was him. He didn't like that and stomped out of the aisle. He didn't leave of course, he slammed his bottles of whatever on the counter and paid for them first.
Again, i hope this is coincidence. But...I've lived here and have been visiting each of these stores for over 10 years. I've never seen anything like this before. Then I see it in 3 separate stores all directed at women and/or minorities.
I fear Trump has rolled back a certain level of decency in this country. My bigger point here, however, is to remind myself and anyone who has made it through my shitty post to be extra civil, extra kind, maybe even a little more compassionate as you go about your day. We all need to right now.
Lerxst
spaghetti and blankets
You can Face palm it Chad, but you guys keep forgetting I am the objective one without a stake in this...I'm the impartial one...my opinions and observations are not tainted by my ideology...
Look back through this entire thread...how many of the posts contain incredible levels of insults....you gits on the left are no more enlightened than the right...your hatred of them makes you no different you just believe different things...
Thsee are the people who voted for Trump...
These are the people you have to convince...it's a really big area, you have a lot of work to do, and what you've been doing isn't working...
Try something else...
Keep in mind that map shows geography, not population. Much of that red area is scarcely populated. Keep in mind that Clinton won the popular vote by 250,000 votes or so.
jelloman
Couch'd Tater...
Yessir...but the map also shows that, with a few exceptions, that the blue side is mainly urban and coastal , and the red side is virtually an uninterrupted rural expanse...and demonstrates undeniably the lifestyle difference between the 2...not that it excuses the negative, very negative, aspects of the right, but it does explain the lack of understanding between the 2...
baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
Here is the US population by density...
It's ironic that they chose purple for the densest areas.... because this almost looks like a Democrat vs Republican by county map. The denser and more diverse the population gets, the more democratic it gets.
There is a LOT to be said for exposure to diversity.
(that big purple block at the top of Indiana is St. Joe County where I am... South Bend has a young, gay, democratic mayor and a very diverse population compared to the rest of the state).
It's ironic that they chose purple for the densest areas.... because this almost looks like a Democrat vs Republican by county map. The denser and more diverse the population gets, the more democratic it gets.
There is a LOT to be said for exposure to diversity.
(that big purple block at the top of Indiana is St. Joe County where I am... South Bend has a young, gay, democratic mayor and a very diverse population compared to the rest of the state).
Knox in Box
Rustbelt refugee.
I hate to just blame it on trump himself, let's just say there had been a steady turning away of perceived "PC" language pre dating him.
He didn't help though, that's for sure.
I have to say, I find PC culture tedious, but people have used their hate against pc as an excuse to go straight to inexcusable breeches of any and all common decency. They seem to forget that back in the good old non pc days they would have caught a very non pc right hook on their non pc lips. Remember this attitude adjustment song? Sorta like that, just more personal.
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
I can't really think of any legit examples where "being PC" isn't just "not being a piece of shit".
As always, I'd love to be wrong.
As always, I'd love to be wrong.
Twice, I've posted a YouTube video of Trey Gowdy stating in his own words that NOTHING COULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO SAVE THE CONSULATE STAFF.
You should be blaming Congress since they turned Clinton down when she warned Congress of the dangers building in the region and asked for more security details.
Why do you persist in trotting this bullshit out?
Knox in Box
Rustbelt refugee.
Some people in the last decade or two have taken the politically correct route too far to the point of not bringing certain things up and just talking around the problem because they're afraid of hurting someone's feelings.
That's what folks started rebelling against. They forget that there is a way to say what needs to be said without breaking the other person.
Theodore
I gotta move
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
So, just being soft-skinner? And conservatives falsely believe that they're against that?
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
I've said it many times: before perspective.
In 50 years, schoolchildren will see Trump voters the same way that we see those who blocked the civil rights movement.
shoeless
Riffin'
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
Which is precisely why there is an electoral college.
That's why you have two houses of congress.
Rural America is way overpowered.
Edit: that said, I don't think that this election was about urbanity; that's a byproduct.
yabba
Weird Pick Butt Person
I don't see this as supporting the idea... elected representatives represent people, not geography.Which is precisely why there is an electoral college.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
Not too mention where was the outrage from the people who constantly bring this up when Bush was president? there were 13 attacks on embassies and 60 deaths. I am not excusing one or the other, but if you try to criminalize one, you need to go for both. Same with the email bullshit. Bush had 2 or 3 private email servers that his entire staff were on with 22 million emails deleted. Colin Powell also used a private server. Again, not excusing, just pointing out an inconsistency. For what its worth, I fault don't lay the blame on any of the attacks on Bush or Clinton. I blame the assholes who perpetrated the attacks, the deaths are on their hands. As someone who works in IT, I actually think it is a good thing they used private servers. Russians and Chinese hackers may not know to hack the private servers, but you can bet they go after the official servers all day long.
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