OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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eloydrummerboy said:
College friend on facebook, 2 hours ago, I guess he's driving for Uber now:

"So as I'm ubering tonight, I pick up 4 white males. I ask, "Going to High St.?" They say, "Yeah. The slut dungeon." We pass a Trump protest along the way and they collectively say, "Can you run those faggots over for us? They're just mad Trump won. They probably didn't even vote." Then they say, "Yeah did you know Harambe got 15,000 votes? All those dumb ni**ers voting for another monkey."

I simply said, you're certainly living up to the Trump stereotype. This is the culture your candidate is representing."
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I would have taken them to a spot with no cell phone coverage and told them to get out.
 
wagdog said:
My truck has manual windows and locks. I considered it a selling point.
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Mine too, but I don't know that it's really a selling point. After having repaired several electric windows, I didn't want to have to deal with that again. I do miss the convenience of being able to roll down the passenger window with the touch of a button though.
 
eloydrummerboy said:
College friend on facebook, 2 hours ago, I guess he's driving for Uber now:

"So as I'm ubering tonight, I pick up 4 white males. I ask, "Going to High St.?" They say, "Yeah. The slut dungeon." We pass a Trump protest along the way and they collectively say, "Can you run those faggots over for us? They're just mad Trump won. They probably didn't even vote." Then they say, "Yeah did you know Harambe got 15,000 votes? All those dumb ni**ers voting for another monkey."

I simply said, you're certainly living up to the Trump stereotype. This is the culture your candidate is representing."
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On another note, those who are sick of people being upset at the election results, this hammers home exactly why people are upset. It isn't that "my" candidate didn't win. This election was a referendum on human decency. It shows that about half the country is fine with "slut dungeon," the use of the word "faggot" and the "N" word. And that is what's upsetting. When Gore lost, I wasn't upset, when Kerry lost I wasn't upset, if Obama had lost to McCain or Romney, I wouldn't have been upset, because they weren't promoting the hatred that Trump is. In my opinion, a vote for Trump was a vote for hate and discrimination and close to 50% of the voters were fine with that. I say close, because he didn't win the popular vote. Even Bush, the man who lied about evidence to invade a country, didn't run on a platform of forbidding an entire religion from entering the country.
 
shoeless said:
Mine too, but I don't know that it's really a selling point. After having repaired several electric windows, I didn't want to have to deal with that again. I do miss the convenience of being able to roll down the passenger window with the touch of a button though.
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I have owned cars with both. In early adulthood, living in north/central Tacoma, I had to cross an area known for high rates of gang and drug related crime, and carjackings. Seriously, a lot of them. Then, it was nice to have my pretty new fourrunner with power windows and powerlocks.
 
Chad said:
Even Bush, the man who lied about evidence to invade a country, didn't run on a platform of forbidding an entire religion from entering the country.
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I didn't really get pissed about Bush until he started making plans to go to war anyway, and screw what NATO allies thought, etc. Then I went all Neil Young, "Living with War" in terms of mood. But I did not have the same reaction I am having now when he was elected. And those who are saying "get over it" just show me they do not understand what you are saying. As trite as it sounds to me to hear myself say it, it reminds me of that old Dixie Chicks song. People seem to forget the litany of horrible things said. And pointing the finger at those calling those things out as racist, etc. and saying it is their fault is, well, . . . you get my point.

Not to say I favor rioting or violent protesting. That is not helping anyone, and is just making things worse. Peaceful protesting and demonstrating is one thing. Breaking store fronts and trying to get into it with cops or pick fights, that I can live without.
 
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Chad said:
On another note, those who are sick of people being upset at the election results, this hammers home exactly why people are upset. It isn't that "my" candidate didn't win. This election was a referendum on human decency. It shows that about half the country is fine with "slut dungeon," the use of the word "faggot" and the "N" word. And that is what's upsetting. When Gore lost, I wasn't upset, when Kerry lost I wasn't upset, if Obama had lost to McCain or Romney, I wouldn't have been upset, because they weren't promoting the hatred that Trump is. In my opinion, a vote for Trump was a vote for hate and discrimination and close to 50% of the voters were fine with that. I say close, because he didn't win the popular vote. Even Bush, the man who lied about evidence to invade a country, didn't run on a platform of forbidding an entire religion from entering the country.
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Bingo. Let's not forget we've seen time and time again what happens when foreign leaders push this kind of behaviour, and our leaders have always condemned it. No chance of that happening now... Trump and Pence can give them an "atta boy!" and go right back to helping the 1% make their cash.

If we're complacent in defending our civil rights, we'll eventually lose them. Kinda like @Help!I'maRock! keeps pointing out about Gibson and their trademark lawsuits. :embarrassed:
 
sunvalleylaw said:
I didn't really get pissed about Bush until he started making plans to go to war anyway, and screw what NATO allies thought, etc. Then I went all Neil Young, "Living with War" in terms of mood. But I did not have the same reaction I am having now when he was elected.
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To be honest, I think W is a good person. I think he had good intentions and was thrown into a shit storm with the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney as his support staff. His worst decision was to listen to them instead of Powell.
 
The best thing that could have happened for everyone would have been if Bush would have become baseball commissioner rather than POTUS.
 
Chad said:
To be honest, I think W is a good person. I think he had good intentions and was thrown into a shit storm with the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney as his support staff. His worst decision was to listen to them instead of Powell.
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I keep wanting Powell to step up and give a few words now. We need the steady hands on deck.
 
Maybe it's time for the left to face up to something...

This mess is your fault.

The hatred you keep charging the other side with is the same hatred you feel for them. You look down on the right as intellectually inferior and treat them with condescension , insults and self righteous indignation.

The left and right are no more than 2 sides of the same corrupt coin.

What did you expect? You are not going to sway opinion to your side by being condescending and insulting. You tell them their values are no longer valid. You tell them they have to change.

You insult their families and call them deplorable.

Then you get indignant when they don't do what you tell them to do.

They didn't vote for Donald Trump because they're like him, they voted for the guy...

Who didn't tell them their way of life is invalid.

Who didn't tell them the things they value...patriotism, individual rights, family...are passe' and old fashioned..

Who didn't tell them they need to feel guilty for things that happened before they were born.

Who didn't tell them they need to apologize for being born American.

Did the left actually say all that? No, but that's what they heard through all of your insults and condescencion...

If the left wants to fix things, if they want to enact real, sweeping, permanent change they need to start with themselves...

Find a way to change minds without insults and condescension ...

Be better, get better, do better...
 
Chad said:
On another note, those who are sick of people being upset at the election results, this hammers home exactly why people are upset. It isn't that "my" candidate didn't win. This election was a referendum on human decency. It shows that about half the country is fine with "slut dungeon," the use of the word "faggot" and the "N" word. And that is what's upsetting. When Gore lost, I wasn't upset, when Kerry lost I wasn't upset, if Obama had lost to McCain or Romney, I wouldn't have been upset, because they weren't promoting the hatred that Trump is. In my opinion, a vote for Trump was a vote for hate and discrimination and close to 50% of the voters were fine with that. I say close, because he didn't win the popular vote. Even Bush, the man who lied about evidence to invade a country, didn't run on a platform of forbidding an entire religion from entering the country.
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I'm not saying don't be pissed. I'm saying don't tell everyone you've mentally curled up on the couch in your PJ's with a bottle of wine and a container of Hagen Dazs. Be angry and scared and figure out what you can do to help slow the coming shit storm, even if it's just calling people out for BS you would have rolled your eyes at before.
 
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Well one thing that Tuesday night's results have changed for me.....


... I've barely been able to spend more than 5 minutes at a time on Facebook, CNN, NPR, Fox, BBC, or watching or listening to any of those news sources. I can't stand to look at, listen to, or try to accept that this has happened. The five minutes of news I listen to this morning and they're talking about Ben Carson coming up with a replacement for Obamacare.

BEN FUCKING SLEEPWALKING CARSON..... Ben "Egyptians used the pyramids to store grain" Carson? son of a fucking bitch.... this is a bad nightmare I can't wake up from.
 
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