OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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Help!I'maRock!
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My wife and I were talking about this. She's very strongly a Democrat. And while she won't defend Clinton's actions, there's a very clear distinction to her between Clinton's past, and Trump advocating sexual assault. IMO, it doesn't matter what he says he meant. The message received was that sexual assault is ok. And that's not ok.
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
You don't keep your promises. You should run for office.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
I want to hold some sort of party tomorrow night. But I think it should be red wine, moderate, and take care of yourself. Shit is crazy. Best to be the best self you can be. But that is just my opinion.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
As I was saying previously.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
So popping back in to say that after (well, not after yet) this election season, I agree more with @Flamencology that our American system needs re-working. As compared to modern democracies, too much power in foreign and military affairs. I get that as "leader of the free world" at least in terms of defense (I cannot claim we are that in terms of rational thought), we need to act quickly sometimes, and executive power may be necessary, but it is very concerning considering our fire power and the power given the president.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Sorry to be posting so much, but a bit buzzed after the football game, and reading stuff on the internet. @PunkKitty shared this on FB. Copied and pasted here:
Dan Rather
6 hrs ·
The headlines of the moment are in the growing roll call of prominent Republicans who are rescinding their support for Donald Trump. But I am left wondering how his candidacy and those who supported, enabled it, and abetted him until now, will be viewed through the long lens of history. It should be noted that many conservative editorial boards and critics have already come out against Trump long before this latest bombshell in very stark terms.
Apparently everyone has a line, and yet do you feel things would be different if all of these politicians thought Trump could still win in November?
And what should we make of all the other groups who have been insulted and marginalized by Trump and yet his supporters stood by him?
He attacked Mexicans as rapists and murderers - but that was not enough.
He called for barring Muslims from entering the country - but that was not enough.
He incited violence in his rallies - but that was not enough.
He publicly mocked the disabled - but that was not enough.
He retweeted anti-Semitic memes - but that was not enough.
He demeaned a Gold Star Family - but that was not enough.
He insulted the press and railed against their Constitutional freedoms - but that was not enough.
He said that those who suffer from PTSD were weak - but that was not enough.
He had a long history of misogynist and sexist comments - but that was not enough.
He repeatedly lied on issues big and small - but that was not enough.
He refused to release his tax records or health records - but that was not enough.
He joked about violence against his political rival - but that was not enough.
I could go on, and I ask you to do so in the comments section. Perhaps we can tag it with #butthatwasnotenough.
I know some equate Donald Trump with Nazisim - that goes way too far for me. But in recent hours I have been hearing echoes of the chilling poem by the German anti-Nazi theologian Martin Niemöller about the culpability of his country's elite in the rise of Nazism.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
America's better nature has always been to speak out for the marginalized and dispossessed. It is an ideal for which we have all too often fallen far short. What about now?
Dan Rather
6 hrs ·
The headlines of the moment are in the growing roll call of prominent Republicans who are rescinding their support for Donald Trump. But I am left wondering how his candidacy and those who supported, enabled it, and abetted him until now, will be viewed through the long lens of history. It should be noted that many conservative editorial boards and critics have already come out against Trump long before this latest bombshell in very stark terms.
Apparently everyone has a line, and yet do you feel things would be different if all of these politicians thought Trump could still win in November?
And what should we make of all the other groups who have been insulted and marginalized by Trump and yet his supporters stood by him?
He attacked Mexicans as rapists and murderers - but that was not enough.
He called for barring Muslims from entering the country - but that was not enough.
He incited violence in his rallies - but that was not enough.
He publicly mocked the disabled - but that was not enough.
He retweeted anti-Semitic memes - but that was not enough.
He demeaned a Gold Star Family - but that was not enough.
He insulted the press and railed against their Constitutional freedoms - but that was not enough.
He said that those who suffer from PTSD were weak - but that was not enough.
He had a long history of misogynist and sexist comments - but that was not enough.
He repeatedly lied on issues big and small - but that was not enough.
He refused to release his tax records or health records - but that was not enough.
He joked about violence against his political rival - but that was not enough.
I could go on, and I ask you to do so in the comments section. Perhaps we can tag it with #butthatwasnotenough.
I know some equate Donald Trump with Nazisim - that goes way too far for me. But in recent hours I have been hearing echoes of the chilling poem by the German anti-Nazi theologian Martin Niemöller about the culpability of his country's elite in the rise of Nazism.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
America's better nature has always been to speak out for the marginalized and dispossessed. It is an ideal for which we have all too often fallen far short. What about now?
LeftyTom
I am not just another pretty face.
Your petty argument over semantics undermines you.
Honkridge
UNACCEPTABLE!
Ok
We all know every First Lady has a rose named after her
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...088_1_rose-names-history-of-rose-rose-species
Since the next PRESIDENT is going to be a hetero woman is Bill going to have a rose named after him?
This is a serious question about what is at stake in this election. We are at a crossroads sheeple!
We all know every First Lady has a rose named after her
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...088_1_rose-names-history-of-rose-rose-species
Since the next PRESIDENT is going to be a hetero woman is Bill going to have a rose named after him?
This is a serious question about what is at stake in this election. We are at a crossroads sheeple!
Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
Look at the "Polls Plus" projection. It's a bit more realistic. Still, 77% chance is nothing to sneeze at.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus
This may be the one time I'm happy we have an electoral vote system though
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You know, they are going to have to replace the term "hoisted by his own petard" with the word "trumped" by the time this is all over.
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