OMG Politics, I'm over it already Mk III, The Search for Spock

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Help!I'maRock! said:
http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2018/04/23/plastic-bag-ban-bill-new-york-state-cuomo

NYC passed a plastic bag ban last year and Cuomo squashed it because he wanted a statewide bill that would go further. I guess we'll see that bill this fall with a newly reunited Democratic party in the NY Senate. Hopefully it goes further in its reach than the City bill did. It'll look bad for Cuomo if it doesn't.
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so then, what do you guys carry your groceries in?
not counting the current admin, i wonder why obama didn't require all these plastic bags to be biodegradable? i would think that would be the best answer.
 
I have a canvas bag I take with me to the grocery store. And I keep one in the car.

But I'm in a position to shop daily, so it's pretty easy.
 
mongooz said:
so then, what do you guys carry your groceries in?
not counting the current admin, i wonder why obama didn't require all these plastic bags to be biodegradable? i would think that would be the best answer.
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I've been carrying groceries in backpacks and big canvas tote bags for years.
 
http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/23/media/sean-hannity-real-estate-hud/index.html

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A few of our plastic bags get re-purposed and the rest go back to the grocery store's bag recycle barrel.
Plastic shopping bags can clog up a municipal recycling sorter, so don't put them in your recycle bin.

We recycle about 80% or our total trash at home, not including Carvin's.
 
bsman said:
I think you're giving tiny-hands Donald Trump way too much credit. You are implying he knows a very obscure bit of history, which based on his utter ignorance of ancient, recent, or current history is (to me) pretty unlikely. I don't think tiny hands is nearly that subtle!
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Yeah, but someone like Stephen Miller might, and could have started in with a nickname like that, which I'm sure would delight Shitler even if he didn't know what it meant.
 
Plastic bags were banned for the entire country here about 7 years ago. They lifted the ban when biodegradable options became available. Now they charge you money for them, and the bag tax has dropped usage by 75 percent and raised a lot of money for environmental projects. The plan here is evaluate how this is working in another 5 years and return to a ban if necessary. I think this is mostly for the wrapping produce type bags, the plastic shopping bags are legal but not really used. I have never seen a plastic shopping bag here, disposable or otherwise, and everyone brings their own cloth bags to the store. If you don’t have cloth you can get paper for around 35 cents a bag.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
It's not about gun sales. It's about NRA fundraising.
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This is the sort of thing that makes me want to look at leaving the US. Even when culturally, at least involving anyone I know, and I mean more than just those that agree with me, there seems to be more openness to some reasonable changes, this is what seems to happen.
 
sunvalleylaw said:
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to look at leaving the US. Even when culturally, at least involving anyone I know, and I mean more than just those that agree with me, there seems to be more openness to some reasonable changes, this is what seems to happen.
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I think this is the part where we see the blue states getting bluer and the red states getting redder, and the disparity and narrative between ideologies widening.
 
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