My guitar professor from the 80's shared this yesterday: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/
Interesting reading.
Interesting reading.
Charlottesville
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mongooz
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have you considered that those that hold Lee up as their hero may be doing so because they know exactly who and what he was and are just like him.
it's not a misunderstanding, but completely premeditated?
That too.
Bob411
thrumming with potential
Listening to everybody, Trump should of spoke out 2 or 3 days ago. WTF he should of spoke out BEFORE the election.
GDSmithTX
Corporate cog
Absolutely. But if he had, he would never have been elected.
He's a bully, liar and conman, but also either a moral coward or an amoral coward.
jelloman
Couch'd Tater...
An immediate reaction from Trump's strongest and most vocal supporter...
http://www.businessinsider.com/davi...p-for-condemning-charlottesville-rally-2017-8
mongooz
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he DID speak out DURING the campaign.....and he encouraged the alt-right and their violence, several times.
so, clearly, they took him up on the offer.
Tig
Fucktangular
I rest my case.
The first few minutes captures the the essence. Viewing the entire segment is challenging at times, but it is important to witness all sides. I shouldn't be shocked at how ignorant and hateful some people are, yet it still remains difficult to digest.
The first few minutes captures the the essence. Viewing the entire segment is challenging at times, but it is important to witness all sides. I shouldn't be shocked at how ignorant and hateful some people are, yet it still remains difficult to digest.
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VoidTerraFirma
Live to wine
Tig
Fucktangular
Yes, the only group that was there to stand between the KKK carrying torches to the black church and the clergy inside.
The police weren't there.
The democrats weren't there.
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
I think that some people also may be bamboozled by the myth of Lee as the "good Confederate" and "not really a real racist."
There's be a lot of memory weirdness around rehabilitating Lee's reputation. So you can see why people might be confused.
Because he was a "good slave owner," just like TJ and ol' Wooden Teeth Washington.
There's be a lot of memory weirdness around rehabilitating Lee's reputation. So you can see why people might be confused.
Because he was a "good slave owner," just like TJ and ol' Wooden Teeth Washington.
VoidTerraFirma
Live to wine
Jefferson and Washington have considerable accomplishments and notoriety beyond slave-owning. Lee's sole claim to fame is his willingness to own slaves and murder anyone who would oppose that.
It's a subtle distinction.
rhino
Kick Henry Jackassowski
I think it's most people who don't want to see monuments to him come down.
I think protest like this are killing any chance of his legacy not being tied to entirely to slavery.
VoidTerraFirma
Live to wine
No, no. Lee's legacy of treason and murder will remain intact.
Tig
Fucktangular
A copy & paste from one of my more scholarly friends.
During the Civil War, both sides showed up armed; guess which side was defending actual freedom? During the Revolution, two sides came armed for battle. Guess which side fought for liberty? When Americans met Germans on the battlefield in WWII, they were fighting against Nazis. Many were the grandfathers of the human rot who today carry the flags and symbols of a diseased regime their grandfathers fought and died honorably to end. Shall I continue? The false equivalency here is staggering. And, where, oh, where is our great champion of peace in the WH? No where. He's too busy golfing to care. But takes a minute out of his nouveau riche schedule to read a teleprompter and then bash the media some more.
During the Civil War, both sides showed up armed; guess which side was defending actual freedom? During the Revolution, two sides came armed for battle. Guess which side fought for liberty? When Americans met Germans on the battlefield in WWII, they were fighting against Nazis. Many were the grandfathers of the human rot who today carry the flags and symbols of a diseased regime their grandfathers fought and died honorably to end. Shall I continue? The false equivalency here is staggering. And, where, oh, where is our great champion of peace in the WH? No where. He's too busy golfing to care. But takes a minute out of his nouveau riche schedule to read a teleprompter and then bash the media some more.
Yep: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/
The Myth of the Kindly General Lee
The legend of the Confederate leader’s heroism and decency is based in the fiction of a person who never existed.
and what I found in my newsfeed earlier today. False equivalencies are easy to make when they fit your agenda:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle