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1. try replacing youtube.com in the url w/ youpak.com
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2. try a direct view link:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFZfqgHBwo4
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https://www.youtube.com/v/kFZfqgHBwo4
OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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1. try replacing youtube.com in the url w/ youpak.com
or
2. try a direct view link:
change
Mostly, it's because of licensing.
A bit of searching usually turns up another video that works fine. Or wait a day, and the Canadian network that airs SNL has it up on their site.
But yeah, usually the first links you come across are blocked from being viewed in your country.
jp_nyc
Kick Henry Jackassowski
“You’ve seen what happened in Paris, and Nice. All over Europe, it’s happening,” he said to the assembled military leaders. “It’s gotten to a point where it’s not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it. They have their reasons, and you understand that.”
So first he tells them what they’ve seen in the press. Then he tells them that the press is dishonest for not reporting it. I’m disgusted that our military leadership didn’t just walk out of the room at that point. They deserve more respect.
So first he tells them what they’ve seen in the press. Then he tells them that the press is dishonest for not reporting it. I’m disgusted that our military leadership didn’t just walk out of the room at that point. They deserve more respect.
Johnny N.
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Not buying that. Look, I know there are morons of all flavors out there and I know the evangelical side of things are as you describe. But in my experience they don't make up the "bulk" of Christians or conservatives. In my circle, whether it be close friends, casual acquaintances, my local church, people I've heard about, or even social media connection to my fishing world, the people you describe are in the vast minority. I'm not saying they don't exist and the ratio may be higher in other's experiences. I just don't see it. In fact, even the really far right crazies I know are more supportive of the idea of tighter immigration, smaller government, etc. but have no issues with gay marriage and abortion. The point is, I think the idea that we are automatically grouping everyone in the same pile is a terrible trend and until we stop, we wont heal.
I think I even saw an interview with Bill Maher saying kind of the same thing. That we can't just automatically assume that all Christians, conservatives, Republicans etc. are homophobic racists. And likewise not all Democrats, liberals etc. aren't all terrorist sympathizing snowflakes. Oversimplified I know but that's the point. Everyone has their heels dug in right now for their team and there is no path to healthy if we keep this way.
I don't have the answers but I know there are smart enough people to figure it out. Letting the political world divide us surely isn't it. You and I have some pretty different positions but I have no doubt we could sit down and have some good conversations about all this. Now, I have some pretty far right Facebook friends that might be a little more challenging for you but I suspect if people from opposite ends of the political line sat down for the purpose of finding common ground they could. We have to want to do it though. We would have to understand it can't always be all or nothing. And we would have to understand that sometimes it is ok to believe the way we do but not always good to legislate others to believe that way. And if we found that ground and elected people based on those middle ground agreements, wouldn't we be better off? I just don't see how continuing to push both sides out as far as we can is the answer.
Vast minority? Are you serious? Have you looked at the Republican platform lately? Do you think they are catering to a "vast minority" with the anti-abortion and anti-gay stance?
mongooz
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they should have relieved him of command.
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frunobulax
Gak Pernah Cukup!
jp_nyc
Kick Henry Jackassowski
They’re just clickbait op-eds, but Time.com posted an essay calling for impeachment, and so did The Hill.
mongooz
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jp_nyc
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Nothing will happen in Congress. But stuff like this emboldens activists. The organizers of the women’s march are already planning a second day of marches. This time they’ll be doing it on a weekday and pretending that taking a day off work is a general strike.
Pine Apple Slim
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Congress is writing bills to get rid of the EPA and sell off the National Park System, among other things.
Trump is a sideshow.
Trump is a sideshow.
jp_nyc
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Most of those are just cranks writing bills they know can’t pass as red meat for the base back home. No different than some of the hopeless stuff Rand Paul and Liz Warren introduce.
Help!I'maRock!
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Chad
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Johnny, I know you don't want to believe that the republican party is mostly pro life and anti gay, but look at what the candidates campaign on and look at them win in the red areas. I am willing to give you that some of them don't follow politics and current events and may not know what the candidates are promoting, but that is probably more dangerous than actually knowing and voting along. Every republican candidate for the past 15 years has campaigned on fighting to overturn Roe V Wade and making sure gay people can't get married. And they keep winning.
I agree with you about people from the opposite ends sitting down and trying to meet in the middle, but the GOP abandoned that during the Obama administration. Look at every vote that came up in the house and senate. All right down party lines. When the democrats reached out and said help us craft the ACA, the GOP said either it is done exactly how we say, or we all vote no. They wouldn't compromise on a single issue. I wish they would but as long as McConnell and Ryan are running the show, that isn't going to happen. I wish I could say it isn't a new thing and the parties have always done that, but look at the Bush years. Plenty of bipartisan work got done. Unfortunately, with Trump running the show, I don't think that is going to change. Maybe if Kasich, Bush or Rubio had won, it may be different, but I have a feeling you aren't going to want most of Trump's agenda getting through either.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Here is one group of folks that are not . https://www.facebook.com/christiansmisrepresented/
Talking about Christians here. Not republicans. A good portion of the Christians I knew in high school were pretty liberal and did things such as peaceful marches out at Bangor where the sub base is, volunteer for the homeless, food less and those suffering from ills of all kind in inner Tacoma, stuff like that.
But it seems like they do not have a voice any more. But they are not all really republicans either. At least not the ones I have been talking about. (edit: of course, these were mostly jesuits or the students of jesuits from the archdiocese of seattle, not out in the red states).
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mongooz
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yea....i think that somewhere in the 80's there was a paradigm shift in the christian world. not everyone....but there was a marked movement to the far (and even further) right. radical conservative (evangelical) christian movement. Falwell, james baker (and tammy faye)....and the like. and the movement has done nothing but become more radical and just crazy (westboro). unfortunately, the GOP has been cowtowing to those people ever since. Teddy Roosevelt was a republican, that by today's politics would seem like a liberal. (setting aside lands for protection, the kids clean milk program, battling monopoly corporations, etc.) the times they have a changed.
sunvalleylaw
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yes, it also occurs to me that this was all before the revealing of wide spread child/sexual abuse in the RC church, and a couple of conservative popes before Francis.
sunvalleylaw
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Well, let's give it ( a little shit ) to the dems this time, or a person who at least was a dem for a short while. My man Bernie. Nader has words for him. I agree with them. http://www.eurasiareview.com/04022017-ralph-nader-writes-an-open-letter-to-senator-bernie-sanders/
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mongooz
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oh yea......a decade before. it really started in the late 70's. but at first it was philanthropical and help the poor kind of thing (robert schuller). but then the falwells and bakers and the like (grifters, all of them) start preaching their version of immanent revalations ( which they keep saying is going to occur every year). and it's just gone further and further into radicalism. they have absolutely no ground in reality at all anymore. and a large part of the republican party are being blindly influenced by these provacatuers. and their excuse/argument to the lack of reality is always "you have to have faith"...... bullshit.
these radical evangelicals are NOT people of faith.....the ARE political provacatures hiding behind the cloaks of righteousness.
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Chad
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I agree Bernie needs to push single payer but sometimes politics gets in the way. As much as I want it (you should see my family medical bills even with insurance) if it could cost the Dems control in the midterms, I hope he doesn't push it until after the midterms. Health care will be the least of our concerns if Trump has no resistance for 4 years.
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