OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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micwalt said:
Not to quibble, but the industrial revolution started in the late 1700s, right?
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It depends on how you define it...

Most look at it as starting when the use of steam engines began to replace natural and manual power for locomotion, which began in earnest in the early 1800s...the long reaching effects of that change became apparent around the 1840s...
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
First three confirmations are done, I expect 4 more today. Dems have rolled over and died on them, as expected.
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there isn't much they can do is there? I thought with the numbers in the sub committees who vote on the nominations that a gop member had to develop a soul and vote no for any of them not to be confirmed.
 
sleewell said:
there isn't much they can do is there? I thought with the numbers in the sub committees who vote on the nominations that a gop member had to develop a soul and vote no for any of them not to be confirmed.
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The Senate consists of 52 Republicans, 46 Democrats, and 2 Independents. Here's how they've voted:

Pompeo - 89 to 8
Kelly - 88 to 11
Mattis - 98-1

On Mattis, the 1 person to vote against him was Kirsten Gillibrand.

So much for having an opposition party.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
The Senate consists of 52 Republicans, 46 Democrats, and 2 Independents. Here's how they've voted:

Pompeo - 89 to 8
Kelly - 88 to 11
Mattis - 98-1

On Mattis, the 1 person to vote against him was Kirsten Gillibrand.

So much for having an opposition party.
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The government needs to run & they are going to have to confirm someone to the appointments...these aren't the really bad ones. There are others I'd rather they focus their opposition on.
 
mongooz said:
losses? what losses? i'm talking about getting over having massive profit margins. that's like the bullshit when GM (or whomever) says they LOST 30 billion in the second quarter. if they REALLY lost 30 billion, they'd be out of business. they didn't LOSE 30 billion.....they didn't make 30 billion more profit that they PROJECTED (that was never going to be there to begin with). so then they take a big tax cut on money that was never there. it's a great big shell game and it's being used as an excuse to move jobs out of this country because they're "not as profitable". when is enough....enough?

when the steel industry went in the pooper and a bunch of the auto industry too....they said "we are moving to a 'services' economy. call an IT number....who are you talking to? some guy in New Dehli, that's who. apparently THAT service couldn't be afforded here, so they moved it.

what is our economy going to base upon next? R & D? you can't employ 100 million people on R & D.
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I completely agree with your take on the way that business 'works' on the superficial level. If it is going to be a global economy, then the people who are doing business with the 'first world' countries should have to at least be equal on the human rights front otherwise the first world is still just outsourcing its slavery as it did when it first began moving manufacturing offshore. Back then it was just another country and perhaps we knew little about how that country was but now we can access that information much easier. The cost differential is the cost of rights/conditions/wages and all that goes along (or is supposed to go along) with being in a modern society.

I know that a friend in engineering was working for a place which made rail cars here in Canada. The company sent him to India and during that trip he was overseeing the making of the hitch which joins 2 rail cars together. The findings of the trip showed that the hitch could be made for about the cost of the steel alone 'over here' and also that Indians were welding in sandals and people were walking down the middle of a street in a village and just lifting up the robes & shitting in the middle of the street.

The rail car manufacturing facility closed at least 10 years ago...perhaps 15 years. Should a 'first world' country which says that a worker should be performing work in a safe environment with safety equipment and rights be allowed to just stop making a product using the people who they/their companies are indentured to/with so they can just purchase the product from a country which doesn't give a shit about that stuff?

This is different from using Chinese people to carry the dynamite into caves dug to blow rock up with for building railroads in what way? This is different from having a prison do labour for people and having the people who run the prison profit from it in what way? This is different than slavery in what way? It is sanctioning the practices of the other country by patronizing them. In fact, it is embracing those practices. Simple.

What is the difference between outsourcing the slavery and actually having domestic slavery? It's prettier on a local level - that's all. One of the better ways to hide the slavery is to ensure that the domestic population has 'bought in' to FREEDOM and to pay them barely enough to survive but enough to qualify for credit to have a car and food and a nice TV and then have the uber-wealthy say that they can all "pick themselves up by the bootstraps" and make anything of themselves that they want to based on this archaic story about a dream.
 
Lerxst said:
The government needs to run & they are going to have to confirm someone to the appointments...these aren't the really bad ones. There are others I'd rather they focus their opposition on.
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Republicans have a majority no matter what. But that majority is thin. So yes, you could say that these votes don't matter because Republicans vote as a block and all you need is 51 anyway. But 52 to 46 (2 are independents) is a much different vote than 88-11. At least put up the illusion of a fight. Don't just roll over.
 
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Help!I'maRock! said:
The Senate consists of 52 Republicans, 46 Democrats, and 2 Independents. Here's how they've voted:

Pompeo - 89 to 8
Kelly - 88 to 11
Mattis - 98-1

On Mattis, the 1 person to vote against him was Kirsten Gillibrand.

So much for having an opposition party.
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That woman has balls, I'll say that much for her...
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
The Senate consists of 52 Republicans, 46 Democrats, and 2 Independents. Here's how they've voted:

Pompeo - 89 to 8
Kelly - 88 to 11
Mattis - 98-1

On Mattis, the 1 person to vote against him was Kirsten Gillibrand.

So much for having an opposition party.
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what was that line that McArthur said about appeasement?
(i know what it is, i'm being rhetorical)
 
Mark Wein said:
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...-tweets-climate-facts-amid-trump-social-media
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"Yer fired" in 3, 2, 1...
 
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