OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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The quasi news sites are this generation's National Enquirer. Just as many people believe the shit on them as believed Bigfoot kept a lumberjack as a love slave there just wasn't a place to tally the idiots that did.
 
mongooz said:
those reports were by Time and Life magazines....not AP, UPI, Reuters. Time and Life were the equivalent of twitter today.
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Time was always a right-wing propaganda magazine. People forget, but decades ago Time got so bad that Newsweek was started just to provide an alternative. And life Magazine was always just photos and celebrity gossip.
 
jp_nyc said:
Time was always a right-wing propaganda magazine. People forget, but decades ago Time got so bad that Newsweek was started just to provide an alternative. And life Magazine was always just photos and celebrity gossip.
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so your point is....?
the bullshit rags carried stories, just like they do today, online.
 
Chad said:
The quasi news sites are this generation's National Enquirer. Just as many people believe the shit on them as believed Bigfoot kept a lumberjack as a love slave there just wasn't a place to tally the idiots that did.
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This very moment in my newsfeed:
http://www.ancient-code.com/nasa-dropped-a-2-ton-kinetic-missile-on-the-moon-what-did-they-destroy/

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sonik said:
Obama says he could have "mobilized" Americans if he had run again

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-again/ar-BBxA7Ov?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout


I'm reading that as partly a slam against Clinton and the DNC. I also think he's right.

He probably wouldn't have won by as large a margin as prior, but he still would've taken it.
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I take away that & other articles on the conversation he feels that the message of hope & prosperity for Americans of all walks of life that he originally ran on still resonates enough that it would have been successful enough to win another election.
His comments seem more about drawing a contrast to the divisive negative spirit of this past election than it does a swipe at HRC & the DNC.
 
jp_nyc said:
I think the real problem with social media is that it’s designed to encourage people to argue about dumb shit. If I log into Facebook it’s going to show me a slew of clickbait from Huffington Post, Daily Kos, Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh, and an assortment of articles about Trump, Sanders, and Warren. I don’t want to see any of that garbage, and I’ve told Facebook to hide that shit a thousand times. But people arguing about that shit generate ad revenue, and that’s all Facebook cares about. So the pump the most absurd shit to the top, be it Bill Maher ranting or Macedonian news sites claiming that Democrats run a child sex ring out of the basement at Comet Ping Pong. And, unfortunately, an amazing minority Americans are addicted to this shit, so it’s hard for the sane majority to just stay the hell away.
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IDK, I think it's more a reflection of our nature to be merely headline readers, easily influenced by repetition. We love intrigue and especially like stories/commentary that confirms our suspicions and beliefs.
That absurd shit gets emailed around, shared & brought up (in both the far left and far right circles. edit: it's prb been much more noticeable on the right since we've had 8 years of a Dem administration) enough times that people just believe it's true & then they trot it out as fact from on high, reinforcing validity each time. It becomes so deeply true that no evidence otherwise can shake it loose.
 
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sonik said:
Obama says he could have "mobilized" Americans if he had run again

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-again/ar-BBxA7Ov?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout


I'm reading that as partly a slam against Clinton and the DNC. I also think he's right.

He probably wouldn't have won by as large a margin as prior, but he still would've taken it.
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Honestly, I think if any other democratic had run, they would have won. A large portion of people believe Benghazi was her fault, even though every witch hunt has said it wasn't her fault. They believe her email server was illegal and she should be put in jail for it, even though the FBI said she was clear. They also believe the Clinton Foundation is corrupt and no amount of press can change their minds. The only democrat Trump could have beaten was Clinton.
 
wagdog said:
Did Donald Trump mobilize Americans?

Or did he mobilize the Americans the vocal people here don't agree with?
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He definitely did. But I think that there was probably a chunk of folks that cost Clinton the election that weren't motivated by trump as much as they were against Hillary. As you can say that goes both ways but most other democratic candidates probably wouldn't have had that problem. The DNC screwed themselves hard this year.


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wagdog said:
Did Donald Trump mobilize Americans?

Or did he mobilize the Americans the vocal people here don't agree with?
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Chad said:
Honestly, I think if any other democratic had run, they would have won. A large portion of people believe Benghazi was her fault, even though every witch hunt has said it wasn't her fault. They believe her email server was illegal and she should be put in jail for it, even though the FBI said she was clear. They also believe the Clinton Foundation is corrupt and no amount of press can change their minds. The only democrat Trump could have beaten was Clinton.
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Mark Wein said:
He definitely did. But I think that there was probably a chunk of folks that cost Clinton the election that weren't motivated by trump as much as they were against Hillary. As you can say that goes both ways but most other democratic candidates probably wouldn't have had that problem. The DNC screwed themselves hard this year.


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While this election did represent a number of unique events in modern American political history, it's also easy to lose perspective that we are talking about the two least popular candidates for president in the modern era & an incoming President with a historically unprecedented low approval rating.
 
Chad said:
Honestly, I think if any other democratic had run, they would have won. A large portion of people believe Benghazi was her fault, even though every witch hunt has said it wasn't her fault. They believe her email server was illegal and she should be put in jail for it, even though the FBI said she was clear. They also believe the Clinton Foundation is corrupt and no amount of press can change their minds. The only democrat Trump could have beaten was Clinton.
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i tend to agree, even tho i really don't like hillary. i voted for her to try to stop trump, holding my nose.
the problem with this election on the dem side, as i see it, is that the dnc basically proclaimed it was Hill's "turn". everybody else stay the hell out. i mean who really ran against her in the primaries?
then again, who was there that was willing and qualified to run against her?
 
mongooz said:
i tend to agree, even tho i really don't like hillary. i voted for her to try to stop trump, holding my nose.
the problem with this election on the dem side, as i see it, is that the dnc basically proclaimed it was Hill's "turn". everybody else stay the hell out. i mean who really ran against her in the primaries?
then again, who was there that was willing and qualified to run against her?
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Willing is the question. There were plenty of qualified democrats.
 
Chad said:
Willing is the question. There were plenty of qualified democrats.
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I don't know about them being qualified. Clinton has always been a weak campaigner. Yet she steamrolled everyone but Sanders. If those others got crushed like that then maybe they’re not cut out to run the government.
 
jp_nyc said:
I don't know about them being qualified. Clinton has always been a weak campaigner. Yet she steamrolled everyone but Sanders. If those others got crushed like that then maybe they’re not cut out to run the government.
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Yeah all those people she crushed besides Sanders. Martin O'Malley is a good dude but he is still only 1 person :grin:

Nobody wanted to take on the Clinton machine except Sanders and O'Malley and O'Malley probably did it for some exposure for a later run, but Biden, Mark Warner from Va off the top of my head are more than qualified.
 
its funny how trump gets to simply just close his illegally operating charity and that is enough for everyone. its hard for me to process how the double standards are not pissing more people off in this country. his "charity" was a front to avoid paying income taxes and never even had a license to operate in the first place but he just gets to shut it down and that's the end of that. its amazing.


last week he just said he sold all of his stocks so everything was cool as far as conflicts of interest. no proof of it mind you, just words and everything is all good. I feel like I am living in a messed up nightmare devoid of any logic.
 
sleewell said:
its funny how trump gets to simply just close his illegally operating charity and that is enough for everyone. its hard for me to process how the double standards are not pissing more people off in this country. his "charity" was a front to avoid paying income taxes and never even had a license to operate in the first place but he just gets to shut it down and that's the end of that. its amazing.


last week he just said he sold all of his stocks so everything was cool as far as conflicts of interest. no proof of it mind you, just words and everything is all good. I feel like I am living in a messed up nightmare devoid of any logic.
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every single thing that the dumpster said during campaign and since have been just words, and mostly bullshit. for whatever reason, the entire media, the dems, the indpendents and everyone else in the system have just taken a powder and are doing the three monkeys.
dumpster says and does shit, and it's just okey dokey. no one stands up and questions his bullshit.
 
Lerxst said:
While this election did represent a number of unique events in modern American political history, it's also easy to lose perspective that we are talking about the two least popular candidates for president in the modern era & an incoming President with a historically unprecedented low approval rating.
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Yeah it's kind of like death by hanging or death by firing squad....the operative word is death :Wave:

I know that's not the way a lot will think but I never had a horse in this race so that's been my perspective for quite a while.
 
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