OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Because the concept that they might have lavalier mics on both candidates for broadcast is too hard to understand we now have this conspiracy theory that Hillary was cheating with an ear piece:

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Wow. Clinton has been gathering endorsements from papers that have never endorsed a Dem (Arizona Republic), endorsements of support from Republicans with defense ties such as John Warner, and this write up not so much endorsing Clinton as saying to stay away from Trump because he is dangerous, from W. F. Buckley's paper The National Review: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...gn-policy-nato-allies-treaties-vladimir-putin Seems like a few conservatives have had enough after last night.
just goes to show you that even the conventional 'right' has limits as to how far they're willing to go.
the fringe will always be the fringe.
 
just goes to show you that even the conventional 'right' has limits as to how far they're willing to go.
the fringe will always be the fringe.

Donald J. Trump is the republican party nominee for president- I think it's safe to say that Pandora's box is wide open and what was once "fringe" is now mainstream.
 
Donald J. Trump is the republican party nominee for president- I think it's safe to say that Pandora's box is wide open and what was once "fringe" is now mainstream.
i disagree. seeing how many 'conventional' republicans are backing away from endorsing him or stating flat out that they are going to vote for HRC, is proof that there is a seperation.
 
and half of those are voting that way ONLY because they hate HRC. So....

And why do they hate her? Because right wing fringe politics have gone mainstream, and all those bullshit FOX news conspiracy theories are accepted as fact. 2/3 of Trump voters think Obama is a muslim. The republican party is the sorcerer's apprentice- they've unleashed something they can no longer control.
 
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i don't think all the HRC haters are because of GOP fringe brain washing. there's a long history of Clinton dislike (both Bill and Hill) and there's a fair amount of that dislike that is their own fault. Rose Law Firm double/triple billing. Whitewater. Hillary short selling insurance company stocks when she was running "universal health care initiative" when Bill was in the W.H. HRC getting removed from the watergate committee for presenting fraudulent evidence. etc.
they've both actually done things to warrant dislike/distrust and it didn't have ANYTHING to do with the GOP. it was their actual actions and getting caught/found out about it.

so a lot of the folks who are voting AGAINST HRC aren't GOP lackeys. they honestly do not like HRC or trust her, and with some good reason.
 
Assuming that to be the case....

For every reason we have to distrust or to dislike HRC, there are far more reasons to dislike Trump.

"I don't trust this person, so I'm going to support this other person who lies literally 4-5 times more often."

There is a disconnect with reality and logic in this thinking. It's about something deeper.

That said, the history of American conservatism is a history of people voting against the best interests of communities and of the general public. So nothing new there.
 
Assuming that to be the case....

For every reason we have to distrust or to dislike HRC, there are far more reasons to dislike Trump.

"I don't trust this person, so I'm going to support this other person who lies literally 4-5 times more often."

There is a disconnect with reality and logic in this thinking. It's about something deeper.

That said, the history of American conservatism is a history of people voting against the best interests of communities.
i absolutely agree there are far more reasons to not like/trust the Dumpster. i'm not voting for him, i'm voting against him, not necessarily FOR Hill.

and whatever the anti-Hill reasons are, it's not necessarily because the GOP got in their head. that's all i'm saying.
 
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