This is glorious music. You may disagree, but be prepared to face my wrath.

[Flamencology]

Even better yet.

If I'm going to listen to jazz, I preder something like this:

That's ok, but it won't work for our purposes.

Instead, you can have this:



Or this:

 

[Dudeman1967]

I accidentally had two videos from the second page going at once. It took me about 30 seconds before I noticed.

The video in the OP got a little better after the first minute or so but that's not saying much.

*prepares for the pain*

 

[Flamencology]

I accidentally had two videos from the second page going at once. It took me about 30 seconds before I noticed.

The video in the OP got a little better after the first minute or so but that's not saying much.

*prepares for the pain*

 

[tamoore]

I accidentally had two videos from the second page going at once. It took me about 30 seconds before I noticed.

This is pretty funny.


I just thought I had two different songs going, which is a completely different, yet similar, thing.....

 

[Flamencology]

This is pretty funny.


I just thought I had two different songs going, which is a completely different, yet similar, thing.....

 

[Dudeman1967]

The first turn or two might do wonders for someone with a pinched nerve in their spine.

 

[Prages]

But I assure you that the track I posted in the OP is perfectly logical in its own way.

That's like saying:

"But I assure you that John Watt is perfectly logical in his own way."

It just doesn't compute.

 

[Flamencology]

But not only Europeans play great free music.

Ha!

 

[Flamencology]

That's like saying:

"But I assure you that John Watt is perfectly logical in his own way."

It just doesn't compute.

No, it's like saying "Mitchell Feigenbaum is perfectly logical in his own way."

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

That's like saying:

"But I assure you that John Watt is perfectly logical in his own way."

It just doesn't compute.

Watt actually has logic and the ability to use it. he chooses not to and gets carried away.

 

[Prages]

Watt actually has logic and the ability to use it. he chooses not to and gets carried away.

So the guys in the OP can actually play their instruments well. They just choose not to.

Got it.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

So the guys in the OP can actually play their instruments well. They just choose not to.

Got it.

they're playing their instruments well and there is a structure to the music. that you cannot recognize the structure has nothing to do with them.

every musical act asks you to get on "their page" to appreciate them. the difference between them and Watt is that they're not in your house spouting misinformation and flinging poo.

 

[Kerouac]

An interesting thing here. Ornette Coleman actually recorded a double quartet record in the the early -60s already, with 4 players in each channel. It sounded like this:

Apparently I like this guy and never knew.

 

[Prages]

they're playing their instruments well and there is a structure to the music. that you cannot recognize the structure has nothing to do with them.

every musical act asks you to get on "their page" to appreciate them. the difference between them and Watt is that they're not in your house spouting misinformation and flinging poo.

Watt isn't in my house spouting misinformation and flinging poo if I don't read his posts.

Same way the video in the OP isn't making me nauseous if I don't click on it.

I did click on it. Sounded like complete rubbish. Reminded me of highschool band when everybody would be warming up doing scales and stuff just to get their instruments warmed up...everybody doing something completely unrelated and non-musical.

Yep, that's pretty much what it sounded like to me.

 

[Flamencology]

I did click on it. Sounded like complete rubbish. Reminded me of highschool band when everybody would be warming up doing scales and stuff just to get their instruments warmed up...everybody doing something completely unrelated and non-musical.

Yep, that's pretty much what it sounded like to me.

οὐδὲ Πάρις δήθυνεν ἐν ὑψηλοῖσι δόμοισιν,
ἀλλ᾽ ὅ γ᾽, ἐπεὶ κατέδυ κλυτὰ τεύχεα ποικίλα χαλκῷ,
505σεύατ᾽ ἔπειτ᾽ ἀνὰ ἄστυ ποσὶ κραιπνοῖσι πεποιθώς.
ὡς δ᾽ ὅτε τις στατὸς ἵππος ἀκοστήσας ἐπὶ φάτνῃ
δεσμὸν ἀπορρήξας θείῃ πεδίοιο κροαίνων
εἰωθὼς λούεσθαι ἐϋρρεῖος ποταμοῖο
κυδιόων: ὑψοῦ δὲ κάρη ἔχει, ἀμφὶ δὲ χαῖται
ὤμοις ἀΐσσονται: ὃ δ᾽ ἀγλαΐηφι πεποιθὼς
ῥίμφά ἑ γοῦνα φέρει μετά τ᾽ ἤθεα καὶ νομὸν ἵππων:
ὣς υἱὸς Πριάμοιο Πάρις κατὰ Περγάμου ἄκρης
τεύχεσι παμφαίνων ὥς τ᾽ ἠλέκτωρ ἐβεβήκει
καγχαλόων, ταχέες δὲ πόδες φέρον: αἶψα δ᾽ ἔπειτα
Ἕκτορα δῖον ἔτετμεν ἀδελφεὸν εὖτ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἔμελλε
στρέψεσθ᾽ ἐκ χώρης ὅθι ᾗ ὀάριζε γυναικί.
τὸν πρότερος προσέειπεν Ἀλέξανδρος θεοειδής:
ἠθεῖ᾽ ἦ μάλα δή σε καὶ ἐσσύμενον κατερύκω
δηθύνων, οὐδ᾽ ἦλθον ἐναίσιμον ὡς ἐκέλευες;
τὸν δ᾽ ἀπαμειβόμενος προσέφη κορυθαίολος Ἕκτωρ:
δαιμόνι᾽ οὐκ ἄν τίς τοι ἀνὴρ ὃς ἐναίσιμος εἴη
ἔργον ἀτιμήσειε μάχης, ἐπεὶ ἄλκιμός ἐσσι:
ἀλλὰ ἑκὼν μεθιεῖς τε καὶ οὐκ ἐθέλεις: τὸ δ᾽ ἐμὸν κῆρ
ἄχνυται ἐν θυμῷ, ὅθ᾽ ὑπὲρ σέθεν αἴσχε᾽ ἀκούω
πρὸς Τρώων, οἳ ἔχουσι πολὺν πόνον εἵνεκα σεῖο.
ἀλλ᾽ ἴομεν: τὰ δ᾽ ὄπισθεν ἀρεσσόμεθ᾽, αἴ κέ ποθι Ζεὺς
δώῃ ἐπουρανίοισι θεοῖς αἰειγενέτῃσι
κρητῆρα στήσασθαι ἐλεύθερον ἐν μεγάροισιν
ἐκ Τροίης ἐλάσαντας ἐϋκνήμιδας Ἀχαιούς.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

I did click on it. Sounded like complete rubbish. Reminded me of highschool band when everybody would be warming up doing scales and stuff just to get their instruments warmed up...everybody doing something completely unrelated and non-musical.

Yep, that's pretty much what it sounded like to me.

if that was your high school then the band teacher was amazing.

there's obviously structure and interplay there. IMO, there's nothing "free" about it.

 

[Prages]

Look. I freely admit that I don't 'get' jazz. The OP doesn't sound like music to me. It sounds like a bunch of dudes loosening up by playing whatever comes to mind before they actually get around to playing a song.

I don't listen to music to think about it, or to make other people think I'm an intellectual. God knows I'm not.

I want my music to be big, dumb and fun.

This stuff is none of that.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

Look. I freely admit that I don't 'get' jazz. The OP doesn't sound like music to me. It sounds like a bunch of dudes loosening up by playing whatever comes to mind before they actually get around to playing a song.

I don't listen to music to think about it, or to make other people think I'm an intellectual. God knows I'm not.

I want my music to be big, dumb and fun.

This stuff is none of that.

there's nothing to get though. the OP is definitely music, it's just not music you like.

music/art is really simple. if i say it's music, then it is. Zappa had a great line about John Cage putting a contact microphone on his throat and gargling carrot juice. Cage says it's music, so it is. you and i might not like it or get it. but that doesn't take away from it's existence.

 

[Flamencology]

I don't listen to music to think about it, or to make other people think I'm an intellectual. God knows I'm not.

I want my music to be big, dumb and fun.

I love thinking about music, but at the end of the day, I wouldn't love this music nearly as much if it didn't affect me physically - listening to this isn't an exercise, it changes my mood and makes me grin like a kid in spite of myself.

 

[Flamencology]

there's nothing to get though. the OP is definitely music, it's just not music you like.

music/art is really simple. if i say it's music, then it is. Zappa had a great line about John Cage putting a contact microphone on his throat and gargling carrot juice. Cage says it's music, so it is. you and i might not like it or get it. but that doesn't take away from it's existence.

I have as much respect for Cage as for any artist, really - easily one of the most creative and original musical minds of the past century. That said... most of the fun of Cage is in the concept, and I'd have a hard time imagining someone being a fan of his on a purely visceral level (actually, I doubt that such a thing is even possible, but...), without enjoying the act of engaging with it intellectually.