Achtung! Sooooooooooo any of you guys interested in the international sawker cup?
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Dexter Inferno
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tiger roach
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SnarkAttack
Canadian
If the USA side wins tomorrow, they are guaranteed to go through - no matter what happens when they play Germany next week.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Not. That would just create long passes and cherry picking down at either end. Boring. No gamesmanship with proper defense and passing. Ok, I change my mind. I am into this. Congrats to the Dutch. My wife's parents emigrated from Holland after the war, so I rooted for them over the Aussies, which I would normally not do as I have many Aussie ski instructor friends. They are fun to drink beer with.NHL and NFL games can end in a tie, I don't know what the big deal is.
I still don't like the offside rule though, it needs to be changed
SnarkAttack
Canadian
The main issue with the offside rule is 1. Most Americans don't understand it; and B) Most of the rest of the world will argue over its interpretation on any particular instance in which it's called or not called.
SnarkAttack
Canadian
By the way, the great local German bar/restaurant here in Philly is running all sorts of World Cup events. A VIP room for each Germany match (I was there for Monday's dismantling of Portugal, see "before" pic below. You don't want to see an after pic. The Lager went far beyond refreshing.) They are closing off the street for the championship match with a huge outdoor screen on South Street.
Here's me in my Germany away kit: (not sure why Photo Booth does mirror image yet. Macs, go figure.)
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Here's me in my Germany away kit: (not sure why Photo Booth does mirror image yet. Macs, go figure.)
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SnarkAttack
Canadian
This is the place. The VIP was $60 for unlimited food and beer in a reserved room. Their food is outstanding, their beer is great (they are exclusive USA carriers of some German breweries), and the ownership and staff are top-notch. And great friendly crowds.
http://brauhausschmitz.com/
http://brauhausschmitz.com/
NHL and NFL games can end in a tie, I don't know what the big deal is.
I still don't like the offside rule though, it needs to be changed
The offside rule was brought in to stop poaching. No one wants to watch a game where you have nothing but long balls humphed up the field towards a lazy shit striker.
As for not liking it because teams can draw
Some of the best games can end in a draw. I remember years ago seeing an absolutely amazing Italian 0-0 draw that was end to end stuff, great attacking but some ridiculously good defending and goal keeping...
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Correct me if I'm wrong but I assume the offsides rule is basically the same as hockey? I have watched a few games and overall I have enjoyed them, but I'm going with the notion that the rules are basically like hockey.The offside rule was brought in to stop poaching. No one wants to watch a game where you have nothing but long balls humphed up the field towards a lazy shit striker.
As for not liking it because teams can draw
As far as draws and toes, I rather see a winner but it's not the end of the world.
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I don't know the rule in hocket but in laymans terms the offside rule =
You're offside if you're "in play" / relevant to the move and any part of you which can play the ball (whether that be head, leg, chest, arse...) is in front and goalside of the last defender when the ball is played to you
I.e. if the goalkeeper punts it up to you from a goal kick and your toe is past the last defender - you're offside.
Obviously that's an extreme example that never happens but the rule becomes complex due to the fluid nature and pace of the game - players are always trying to nick in and beat the offside trap and a split second can determine whether you're on or offside when the ball is played to you.
Throw in human refereeing and error and hey presto: a simple rule that infuriates and confuses the masses
You're offside if you're "in play" / relevant to the move and any part of you which can play the ball (whether that be head, leg, chest, arse...) is in front and goalside of the last defender when the ball is played to you
I.e. if the goalkeeper punts it up to you from a goal kick and your toe is past the last defender - you're offside.
Obviously that's an extreme example that never happens but the rule becomes complex due to the fluid nature and pace of the game - players are always trying to nick in and beat the offside trap and a split second can determine whether you're on or offside when the ball is played to you.
Throw in human refereeing and error and hey presto: a simple rule that infuriates and confuses the masses
bsman
b00b
In hockey, the offside rule is based on the blue line -- the puck must cross the blue line prior to the player doing so (keeping a toe on the blue line is sufficient. In soccer, no part of your body that can touch the ball (e.g. your legs or head) may be closer to the goal than the second-to-last defender. jbj is right -- soccer is fluid, so this line is constantly being reset each time the ball is touched. It all keeps the AR on his toes (as I can say from experience).
Jbird
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Well, I have seen way too many defenders hang back to draw the offside call the last couple of years, because they know there's a chance they will get beat.
To me that's the same as flopping and pretending an injury, it's a dick move. That's why I think it should be modified. I'm not saying to get rid of the offsides, mind you.
Just my 2 pence
To me that's the same as flopping and pretending an injury, it's a dick move. That's why I think it should be modified. I'm not saying to get rid of the offsides, mind you.
Just my 2 pence
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Wait a second. So you can not out run or get ahead of a defender without being offsides? That doesn't seem to make sense.I don't know the rule in hocket but in laymans terms the offside rule =
You're offside if you're "in play" / relevant to the move and any part of you which can play the ball (whether that be head, leg, chest, arse...) is in front and goalside of the last defender when the ball is played to you
I.e. if the goalkeeper punts it up to you from a goal kick and your toe is past the last defender - you're offside.
Obviously that's an extreme example that never happens but the rule becomes complex due to the fluid nature and pace of the game - players are always trying to nick in and beat the offside trap and a split second can determine whether you're on or offside when the ball is played to you.
Throw in human refereeing and error and hey presto: a simple rule that infuriates and confuses the masses
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Jbird
Kick Henry Jackassowski
That's the rule, if you don't have the ball. Watch some matches, you will notice sometimes the defenders will actually lean the other way to draw an offside call.
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
That seems really dumb. So you can't out run a defender? Why would the defenders move at all? Seems like they could just stand at midfield and do nothing.
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Dexter Inferno
Serious error
You can out run a defender, but not until the ball has been played. Run behind the defense before the final pass has been made, and it's offside (except if in your own half of the pitch).