Chad
Slender Hobbit
If only Dave was in a huge band before where a member died. I bet he would have found a replacement to keep the money hose flowing. I’m sure he wouldn’t call it quits and start a new band.
RIP Taylor Hawkins
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If only Dave was in a huge band before where a member died. I bet he would have found a replacement to keep the money hose flowing. I’m sure he wouldn’t call it quits and start a new band.
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
That wasn’t *his* band and the legal rights/ownership wasn’t a thing he necessarily had claim to. He was just one of several drummers playing in Kurt’s band playing Kurt’s songs. In 1994 Dave Grohl was just the drummer in Nirvana—and quite possibly on the verge of being fired or seeing his erratic bandleader go solo. In retrospect he’s this major player in rock, but the idea of Nirvana carrying on like Sublime with Rome circa 1994 is laughable, especially given the litigation and interpersonal fallout that marked the end of Nirvana.
Also, comparatively, Nirvana was, in 1994, business small potatoes. They were just transitioning from playing 3000ish-seat theaters (multiple nights in major metros) to sheds and some smaller hockey rink type places on the In Utero tour and preparing to headline a package tour. They were big and they were culturally important, but they weren’t playing huge arenas and stadiums. They were probably in the same general boat as the White Stripes around the time of their breakup. Successful, but hardly monsters of arena rock.
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DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
What if James Hetfield died? do you think Metallica would go on ? How about if Flea died, would RHCP's continue those are two of the biggest year in year out consistent money machines
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
What if James Hetfield died? do you think Metallica would go on ? How about if Flea died, would RHCP's continue those are two of the biggest year in year out consistent money machines
If Lars died, Metallica would continue. I mean, both Metallica and RHCP already proved their willingness to soldier on after losing key members.
It’s the music BUSINESS and the brand recognition is huge. Jerry Garcia has been dead for almost 30 years and yet “The Dead and Co” are on the road this summer. There’s a reason it isn’t The Law Firm of Weir, Mayer, and Kreutzmann or something on the marquee. Why is there power in a reunion, Deebo? Because people want the proven rocking power of brands they trust. The only end is when the main dude dies if there is a main dude—Tom Petty and Prince…end of the line. Everybody else? Enh. Heck, the Eagles got a replacement for Glenn Frey.
I’m sure some people can’t carry on after a personal setback or tragedy—but just how normal people don’t become president, I suspect you have to be made of special emotional stuff to do the whole multi-decade high pressure touring and recording enterprise thing. I’m guessing a bunch of dudes in their 50s responsible for the fortunes of a multimillion dollar business are pretty clear on if they blow up this very reliable and lucrative thing they’re not getting another shot at anything as good. What other job is the dude from Sunny Day Real Estate who plays bass for the Foos gonna do?
Chad
Slender Hobbit
What if James Hetfield died? do you think Metallica would go on ? How about if Flea died, would RHCP's continue those are two of the biggest year in year out consistent money machines
I don’t know why I ever take him off ignore. I won’t make that mistake again.
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
I’m sorry that you, an adult human person, cannot manage a reasonable discussion about the music business. I hope you find the peace you require because you clearly are unaccustomed to even minor disagreements about mostly meaningless stuff.
The “oh, he’s on ignore so I’m going to talk about him like he’s not here” aside to someone else is total passive-aggressive teenage petulance. It doesn’t make you look like the bigger man or whatever.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
If Lars died I think they call it quits. They been around longer than you've been on earth bro plus Lars is beloved and as much the face of Metallica as Kirk or James. When Cliff died Metallica was still in it's infancy...I was there. RHCP lost Hillel (sp?) but again way back in infancy and even though John became the much loved member he was replaced but still alive and it was due to his drug use really. If Flea died I think it's over...it John died they get Josh 2...if Chad dies they get some other bloke
Rush Called it a day when Neil passed
Canadians biggest band ever and they just called it a day.the Dead and co are a joke. The GD was a brand before any other except the Beatles really and for a time in the 90's it was a whirlwind . Right as Jam expanded beyond Dead and Phish Jerry kicked it so Dead and Co had to go on because the parking lot children and and Dick's Picks...the GD were a unique circumstance and again BRAND as it was kind like America version of back packing through Europe where the college kids needed something to do in the Summer so Dead just played revolving chairs and tried to fill Jerry's spot even with the Mayer dude but it was always a Vegas Lounge act without Jerry.
Dude who plays bass in Foos was listed as 40 million net worth....he can retire and live the good life doing whatever he feels like. For instance Like Jim Carey....he just retired from acting at age 60.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
If Lars died I think they call it quits. They been around longer than you've been on earth bro plus Lars is beloved and as much the face of Metallica as Kirk or James. When Cliff died Metallica was still in it's infancy...I was there. RHCP lost Hillel (sp?) but again way back in infancy and even though John became the much loved member he was replaced but still alive and it was due to his drug use really. If Flea died I think it's over...it John died they get Josh 2...if Chad dies they get some other bloke
Rush Called it a day when Neil passed
the Dead and co are a joke. The GD was a brand before any other except the Beatles really and for a time in the 90's it was a whirlwind . Right as Jam expanded beyond Dead and Phish Jerry kicked it so Dead and Co had to go on because the parking lot children and and Dick's Picks...the GD were a unique circumstance and again BRAND as it was kind like America version of back packing through Europe where the college kids needed something to do in the Summer so Dead just played revolving chairs and tried to fill Jerry's spot even with the Mayer dude but it was always a Vegas Lounge act without Jerry.
Dude who plays bass in Foos was listed as 40 million net worth....he can retire and live the good life doing whatever he feels like. For instance Like Jim Carey....he just retired from acting at age 60.
IMO, you can’t include the Dead & Co in this conversation. They didn’t start up until 20 years after Jerry’s death. They changed their name and it isn’t just the Grateful Dead where they swapped in Mayer for Jerry. It’s only 3 guys from GD in it.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Ok, my Ohanafest Encore 2021 CD came in last night, and Taylor is on it, on the last track. In this epic, beautifully ridiculous in the best way finale! When Corin takes the main mic for the verse regarding “There’s a woman in the night . . . “ it makes the lyrics that much more poignant. As Corin Tucker tends to do with her voice. And seeing Taylor Hawkins (still so sad about Taylor. Tears rights now), having so much fun in this last chance I got to see him. And Brandi and the Twins, and so many other amazing folks up there, the kid who Eddie was honoring on his birthday with his tambourine, . . . Anyway, it was a pretty special day and an amazingly ridiculous and fun finale, especially wiht Taylor and Chad Smith hammering it out to the end.
I have to admit that I felt like Mike Meyer’s/Wayne. And I will just stay out of the music biz discussion. Can’t say any of you are wrong, (until something happens, and then we know what) but we don’t know what will happen now. And I don’t feel like talking about it. RIP Taylor.
I have to admit that I felt like Mike Meyer’s/Wayne. And I will just stay out of the music biz discussion. Can’t say any of you are wrong, (until something happens, and then we know what) but we don’t know what will happen now. And I don’t feel like talking about it. RIP Taylor.
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Chicken Man
Kick Henry Jackassowski
GD is only relevant because they're famous for a bloated operation that needs constant cash flow to keep from collapsing in on itself. The band revolved, creatively, spiritually, and on all other levels, around the missing member. Hawkins, though he was a great drummer, was really most valuable to the band as a mascot of Real Rock Music. He's like Flava Flav--Chuck D would absolutely continue under the PE name without the mascot.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
that could be the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
I think this one might be different BECAUSE Dave and Taylor were so close, like brothers. I'm sure they could give all the entourage a hefty severence pay if they wanted with an open invite to "the greater foo family " whatever side projects or offshoots happen. i don't think they necessarily would need to carry on as FF's
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
Even Batmans are replaceable.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
Everyone technically is except Neil Peart
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
Come to think of it the Tragically Hip called it a day when Gord Downie passed as well. Perhaps the Canadians respect their dead more than the USA does
Chad
Slender Hobbit
Zep called it quits when Bonzo died too.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
Seems like it’s a mericuhn thing to keep going after a major band mate dies
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
They broke up before Peart died, unfortunately.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
well The Who is half dead and they are still at it. How many Stones have died? I think it’s a mixed bag. I’m sure some do it for the cash and some for the just the love of making music, or the high of the roaring crowd. I can’t imagine the rush of playing a sold out arena.