Question: Replacement pickup suggestions...

PunkKitty said:
I'm not sure if this is possible. It would take some wiring trickery.
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It was just a thought but not at all necessary. I have guitars with coil split capability and I seldom use it. I just thought that a split bucker would give me the same tonal possibilities as a SSS Strat.
But no biggie if it's a butt load of trouble. This is my first attempt at this and I'm confused enough already!!
 
The simple way to do this is with a coil split switch- that way you dial up the 5-way as normal but have the option of using the humbugger in single coil mode-

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You can either replace your tone pot with a push/pull, or drill a hole in the pickguard and mount a separate switch (the drawing shows a DPDT, but a SPDT is all you need). Again, be aware that the color coding on this is different than what you have- match up the descriptions, not the colors.
 
Beyer160 said:
The simple way to do this is with a coil split switch- that way you dial up the 5-way as normal but have the option of using the humbugger in single coil mode-

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You can either replace your tone pot with a push/pull, or drill a hole in the pickguard and mount a separate switch (the drawing shows a DPDT, but a SPDT is all you need). Again, be aware that the color coding on this is different than what you have- match up the descriptions, not the colors.
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I think I'll wait on this mod for now. Once I get the pups installed successfully I'll decide if I need to go back in for follow up surgery.
One step at a time!!!
 
gtrjunior said:
I think I'll wait on this mod for now. Once I get the pups installed successfully I'll decide if I need to go back in for follow up surgery.
One step at a time!!!
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FWIW I find it's easier to do things all at once when I've got the strings off and the hood open instead of having to crack 'er open again to go back in later, but do what makes sense to you. With a full-time humbucker you probably won't be using the 2 position (bridge and middle) though.
 
Beyer160 said:
FWIW I find it's easier to do things all at once when I've got the strings off and the hood open instead of having to crack 'er open again to go back in later, but do what makes sense to you. With a full-time humbucker you probably won't be using the 2 position (bridge and middle) though.
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Probably not. I'm sure I'll live in the 1, 3 and 5 position mostly.

Iirc the 2+4 position are wired in series(?) for hum cancelling....
 
Just found this online. Hopefully it is the most accuse way to compare color codes. I googles fender stock wiring and this was in there

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gtrjunior said:
I think what I'd like to do is:

Position 1: Humbucker

2:standard( one rail of the bucker/middle...is that what stock is?)

3:middle

4:coil split bucker( is that even
possible?)

5:neck

Positions 2+4 could be reversed I suppose. It would probably make more sense.
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PunkKitty said:
I'm not sure if this is possible. It would take some wiring trickery.
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#4 requires a Superswitch.

Traditional Fender 5-way switches are only 3-pole switch with indents for in-between positions. Positions #2 or #4 require you to use the pickups wired to positions #1/3 or #3/5 respectively.

gtrjunior said:
Probably not. I'm sure I'll live in the 1, 3 and 5 position mostly.

Iirc the 2+4 position are wired in series(?) for hum cancelling....
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They are traditionally wired in parallel, whiuch is why they have reduced output. Series vs parallel has nothing to do with hum-cancelling., that's a polarity thing.
 
Gotcha....obviously I'm brand new to working on guitars! But I'm happy to learn whatever you guys have to teach me!
 
Superswitches allow several pole per switch position for unlimited wired options.

You can have the HB on Position #4, all three on Position #1, different HB coils on different positions, etc. But obviously wiring gets alot more complicates with a lot more leads between poles.

http://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and_Electronics/Components_and_Parts/Switches/Megaswitch.html
http://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and_..._Parts/Switches/Oak_Grigsby_Super_Switch.html
https://www.amazon.com/Fender-5-Pos...1479822565&sr=8-1&keywords=superswitch+guitar

I'll add that I hate figuring out these switches. It's like trying to draw a mirror image of something without a mirror, eventually I do something backwards.
 
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Wyatt said:
#4 requires a Superswitch.

Traditional Fender 5-way switches are only 3-pole switch with indents for in-between positions. Positions #2 or #4 require you to use the pickups wired to positions #1/3 or #3/5 respectively.



They are traditionally wired in parallel, whiuch is why they have reduced output. Series vs parallel has nothing to do with hum-cancelling., that's a polarity thing.
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So without the superswitch I'd need a push/pull pot?
 
Remind me - does the guitar you're working on already have pickups in it or are you wiring something up from scratch?

If it already has everything, why not start with the neck pickup - note where the two wires of the old pickup are going (probably one to the switch and one to the back of a pot). Remove those two wires and replace them with the hot (white) and ground (black) from the new pickup. Then do the middle and the bridge the same way (or follow the above diagram you posted for the bridge split in the #4 position).
 
Wyatt said:
Push/pull pot won't help get the HB on the #4 position, but it would allow you to coil split from HB to SC in the #1 position.
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Right...that's what I was asking about...I don't have the know how to wire it into the switch.
I'm thinking I might attempt the push/pull though....
 
smurfco said:
Remind me - does the guitar you're working on already have pickups in it or are you wiring something up from scratch?

If it already has everything, why not start with the neck pickup - note where the two wires of the old pickup are going (probably one to the switch and one to the back of a pot). Remove those two wires and replace them with the hot (white) and ground (black) from the new pickup. Then do the middle and the bridge the same way (or follow the above diagram you posted for the bridge split in the #4 position).
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It does have the stock MIM pups installed currently. I was thinking of dong it exactly like you said. I'll just need to match the color codes.
 
So I just spent a couple of hours working on replacing the pickups.

I learned one VERY valuable lesson...
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing!
Tomorrow it goes to my tech to have it done right.
The instructions that came with the pickups were nothing like how the pickups were actually wired from the factory. I followed the new pickups instructions and it don't work... no sound from any of the pickups at all.
 
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