OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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sleewell said:
an 8 billion pool for a 200 billion problem. i see no problems here.
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Again, anything less than improvement is failure. This and likely any and all further actions are to justify vilifying ACA for the last eight or so years, not to provide anyone with better or improved healthcare options.

The GOP wants a healthcare homerun? Get some guts and write bill to start a single payer system. Your party will forever be revered. I can't think of Democrat that would oppose it...just other Republican shitheads.

The GOP hasn't done a damned thing in decades except blindly support military action proposed by "their" Presidents, obstruct the SCOTUS nomination process, and oppose the vast majority of laws proposed by their colleagues across the isle. Their identity is now the party of Trump and as big a piece of shit ever produced by or within this until recently great nation.
 
let's just hope that the senate humanizes the bill enough so that the soulless members of the house freedom caucus no longer support it. i'd love to see trump claim victory now and ultimately nothing happens.
 
sleewell said:
let's just hope that the senate humanizes the bill enough so that the soulless members of the house freedom caucus no longer support it. i'd love to see trump claim victory now and ultimately nothing happens.
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Let's first hope the CBO scores it ineligible for reconciliation. Then we don't have to worry about some horrific compromise, and Joe Manchin will actually be right.
 
sleewell said:
an 8 billion pool for a 200 billion problem. i see no problems here.
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yea......there have been tons of criticism for that bullshit. i read an estimate of 25 B. was more realistic for that period of time. but that was just for the subsidies, not the rest of the program.
 
Tig said:
Dan Rather:

History doesn't reward political victories, it rewards improvements in the human condition.

The health care bill that the Republicans have just rammed through the House of Representatives is all about optics. It's all about a political "win" for the President and his party. It's all about serving the base.

But what about what it means for millions of Americans? What does it mean for a young mother facing a cancer diagnosis and worrying about the future of her young child? What does it mean for an HIV patient worrying about losing a job and the cost of his pre-exisiting condition? What does it mean for a family facing sickness, and bankruptcy?

What will this bill mean for all of these people, and countless more? We don't know. No one really knows. We are in a rush without reason. A major piece of legislation is being crammed through before it is even analyzed and vetted. Of course our current system isn't perfect - far from it. Of course the Affordable Care Act needs revisions. Who gets something that big right the first time? But instead of progress and thought, we get chaos and grandstanding.

There will be no end to the speculation of how this will affect the political fortunes of the two major parties. And on that front, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. I worry for my fellow citizens for whom the burden of health will now be compounded by the burden of injustice.
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the one thing that Dan, apparently, doesn't get is.....THEY'RE STINKING RICH......THEY DON'T FUCKING CARE.

edit: i agree with everything that dan rather said above. my comment was "i'm just sayin' "
 
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mongooz said:
is THAT a thing? does the CBO actually have that authority? AFTER a house vote?
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Reconciliation, and a bypass of the 60 vote rule, only works if the bill doesn't add to the deficit. So they have to wait for the CBO score in order to pass it with a simple majority. It appears Senate Republicans know the CBO won't qualify the bill, and they're working on their own version that can pass through reconciliation. That will have to be sent back to the House.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
Reconciliation, and a bypass of the 60 vote rule, only works if the bill doesn't add to the deficit. So they have to wait for the CBO score in order to pass it with a simple majority. It appears Senate Republicans know the CBO won't qualify the bill, and they're working on their own version that can pass through reconciliation. That will have to be sent back to the House.
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and the house will rubber stamp it.
 
Seems like the Prime Minister here has taken a leaf out of Trumps book by claiming all EU countries are ganging up on the UK threatening with penalties for leaving and trying to influence the upcoming elections. :facepalm:

No, silly bint... You knew that Brexit is going to cost us billions and billions but are trying to get sympathy by blaming the EU
 
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