OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Chad said:
I don't think anyone has blamed everyone in a particular group, at least I haven't. I think the real issue with boomers is just the numbers. There are so many, it is going to be hard to keep medicare and social security going. And when I say hard, I mean the right won't give up a penny in defense to take care of a generation of people like they should.
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Did you read the link Lerxst posted? A venture capitalist blaming baby boomers for screwing the futures of their children and grandchildren. Fuck him. I have sacrificed so much for my kids futures. Calling all boomers sociopaths sounds like daddy cut off access to his trust fund.
 
Chad said:
I don't think anyone has blamed everyone in a particular group, at least I haven't. I think the real issue with boomers is just the numbers. There are so many, it is going to be hard to keep medicare and social security going. And when I say hard, I mean the right won't give up a penny in defense to take care of a generation of people like they should.
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the problem with part of your statement is that S.S. is NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. it is money I'VE PAID INTO it. IT IS MY FUCKING MONEY.
if congress has used S.S. as their private slush fund and spent it on other things, then congress should be prosecuted for fraud and theft.
medicare is a different animal.
 
GomezAddams said:
I noticed that in Spicer's press conference yesterday, he essentially said "Manafort? Manafort who?" a couple of times. Understandable: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/world/europe/paul-manafort-ukraine-allegations-trump.html?_r=0
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i saw that too. they/he was acting like manafort was just a guy that was there for a couple weeks and wasn't involved very much, when in fact manafort was there for nearly 6 months and was one of the architects of the campaign. i think there's stuff he knows that would be quite damaging, if it came out.

subpoena his ass!!!!!
 
335clone said:
Did you read the link Lerxst posted? A venture capitalist blaming baby boomers for screwing the futures of their children and grandchildren. Fuck him. I have sacrificed so much for my kids futures. Calling all boomers sociopaths sounds like daddy cut off access to his trust fund.
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I was talking about people here.
 
mongooz said:
the problem with part of your statement is that S.S. is NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. it is money I'VE PAID INTO it. IT IS MY FUCKING MONEY.
if congress has used S.S. as their private slush fund and spent it on other things, then congress should be prosecuted for fraud and theft.
medicare is a different animal.
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I don't believe I called it an entitlement. BTW, Medicare is also paid for with FICA which you and I also pay each paycheck, so they are both yours and my money.
 
Chad said:
I don't believe I called it an entitlement. BTW, Medicare is also paid for with FICA which you and I also pay each paycheck, so they are both yours and my money.
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yea...you didn't....i was referring to your reference to the gop. and THEIR insistence that S.S. is an entitlement, when it's not.
and your right about FICA too. tho i think a bunch of federal money goes into it also.
but then again, if the godamn 1% and coporations would just PAY THEIR TAXES, these programs wouldn't be failing.

oh what the fuck was i just thinking. that might cut into their RICHNESS. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
IIRC, Reagan was the person more or less responsible for taking cash from the social security fund and replacing it with IOUs. He had to do this in order to offset the huge deficit created when his tax cuts didn't boost the economy and pay for themselves as he claimed it would.

It never ceases to amaze me that trickle-down economics has never worked for any administration that's tried it, and yet it still remains a foundation plank in the republican party.
 
GomezAddams said:
IIRC, Reagan was the person more or less responsible for taking cash from the social security fund and replacing it with IOUs. He had to do this in order to offset the huge deficit created when his tax cuts didn't boost the economy and pay for themselves as he claimed it would.

It never ceases to amaze me that trickle-down economics has never worked for any administration that's tried it, and yet it still remains a foundation plank in the republican party.
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They just keep re-branding it. It's not trickle down anymore, now it is tax cuts for the job creators. :grin:
 
GomezAddams said:
IIRC, Reagan was the person more or less responsible for taking cash from the social security fund and replacing it with IOUs. He had to do this in order to offset the huge deficit created when his tax cuts didn't boost the economy and pay for themselves as he claimed it would.

It never ceases to amaze me that trickle-down economics has never worked for any administration that's tried it, and yet it still remains a foundation plank in the republican party.
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it doesn't work, at least in one part, because the RICH NEVER LET GO OF ANY MONEY. so there's nothing to "trickle down".
i'd like to bleed them like a pig.
they have robbed this country economically and intellectually so badly that it is criminal.
 
mongooz said:
YA KNOW, I'M GETTING TIRED OF THE "KILL OFF THE BOOMERS" BULLSHIT.
I'M A BOOMER AND I DIDN'T DO ANY OF THE SHIT YOU CLAIM. NOR DID ANY OF MY FRIENDS OR FAMILY.

HOW ABOUT WE KILL OFF ALL THE X'ERS, NEXT'ERS AND MILINEIALS WHILE WE'RE AT IT?
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You claim? Who you shouting at Grandpa? :)
 
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Chad said:
I don't believe I called it an entitlement. BTW, Medicare is also paid for with FICA which you and I also pay each paycheck, so they are both yours and my money.
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GomezAddams said:
It never ceases to amaze me that trickle-down economics has never worked for any administration that's tried it, and yet it still remains a foundation plank in the republican party.
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This is why the GOP needs evangelicals as a base. It’s a lot easier to sell concepts that require unwavering faith to people who build their lives on unwavering faith.
 
Trickle down was just a way to make the poors think that tax cut for the rich would benefit them. I don't think any of the wealthy or politicians actually thought it would work to the benefit of the poors.

I don't really have a problem with other generations. I'm a little miffed at the generation before mine that managed to crater the economy several times in my lifetime. They also spent all their money and saved very little for retirement, so they are staying in the workforce longer than ever, leaving no forward path for all the people on the ladder below them. The average age of a scientist receiving their first NIH RO1 research grant is currently 39. That is what the bottom of the ladder looks like. The top of the ladder is reflected in the fact that 2/3rds of all NIH RO1 grants go to scientists over 65. Three decades ago, those 65 and up people would be retired or dead, and today they are just not retiring to make room for younger people.
 
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