OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...k-no-evidence-jobs-data-manipulated/99157152/

Fact check: No evidence jobs data was ‘manipulated’


President Trump’s chief budget officer claimed — without any evidence — that “the Obama administration was manipulating the numbers” to make the nation’s unemployment rate “look smaller.”

Asked for evidence, White House press secretary Sean Spicer also offered none. Spicer replied that Mick Mulvaney, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, was “clearly referring to Obamacare.” That’s false.

Mulvaney was clearly talking about employment data when he made his remarks March 12 on CNN’s State of the Union. Host Jake Tapper played a video clip from Feb. 9, 2016, in which Trump called the unemployment rate “phony numbers.” At the time, the unemployment rate was 4.9%.

“Don’t believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment,” Trump said. “The number is probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42%.”

(As we pointed out at the time, Trump’s 42% figure represented the number of Americans 16 years and older who are not in the labor force — the vast majority of whom did not want a job, such as retirees, students and stay-at-home parents).

Despite candidate Trump’s skepticism of the unemployment rate, President Trump touted the latest jobs figure released on March 10 by BLS. The U.S. added 235,000 jobs in February and the unemployment rate was “little changed” at 4.7%, down from 4.8% in January, according to a BLS press release.

Spicer, Trump’s top spokesman, joked about the president’s embrace of the jobs data. Asked at a March 10 press briefing about the president’s change of heart, Spicer said, “Yeah, I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly — ‘They may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.'”

On the State of the Union, Tapper asked Mulvaney whether there were any changes to the methodology used by BLS to calculate the February unemployment rate.

Tapper: "So, did anything actually change at the Bureau of Labor Statistics in terms of methodology or who is running the business there?"

Mulvaney: "What I think changed is, you start to look at some of the underlying numbers. You look at the U6 number. We could talk — I’m already boring your audience. There’s things like U3, U6. And what you should really look at is the number of jobs created.

"We’ve thought for a long time, I did, that the Obama administration was manipulating the numbers in terms of the number of people in the work force to make the unemployment rate, that percentage rate, look smaller than it actually was.

"And we used to tell people back home, the only thing you should really look at, number of jobs created. And as long as that number is above [250,000], then the economy is doing extraordinarily well. And that was the number we hit last week."

Mulvaney presented no evidence to support his suspicion that “the Obama administration was manipulating the numbers,” even after he was pressed to do so by Tapper.

A day later, Trump’s chief spokesman was asked at a White House briefing (18:38 mark) for evidence of data manipulation, but he also offered none. In fact, Spicer wrongly claimed that Mulvaney was talking about the Affordable Care Act — which was clearly not the case, as the exchange above shows.

Reporter, March 13: "Director Mulvaney said yesterday that he felt the Obama administration had been manipulating the unemployment rate. I’m wondering if that’s a view the president shares and what evidence is there of that?"

Spicer: "I think he was clearly referring to Obamacare with the number of people, but I would refer you back to him and his comments with respect to how he characterized that. I think he can discuss the precise nature of what he meant on that."

As for the Obama administration, Erica Groshen, who was commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics during Obama’s second term, told CNN, “During the four years I served as commissioner, the administration didn’t try to manipulate the numbers at all.”

(The first BLS commissioner to serve under Obama was a holdover from the Bush administration. Keith Hall, a conservative economist, was BLS commissioner until January 2012. Hall is now the director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — as selected by House Republicans in 2015.)

In the CNN interview, Mulvaney sought to highlight the difference between monthly job gains and the unemployment rate. He said adding 250,000 jobs in a month is a sign that “the economy is doing extraordinarily well.” By that measure, job growth was extraordinary in 20 of the 96 months under Obama. Overall, the nation’s economy has added 11.5 million jobs under Obama, including a record 75 straight months of job growth — which was extended to 76 months in February. [snip]
 
A good friend of mine posted this on Facebook last night:

"So today my 69yr old latino father was accosted by a racist white supremacist while minding his own business pumping gas at the local Costco store in San Marcos CA around 10:30am. The guy was visibly annoyed for whatever reason and simply walked up to my dad and proceeded to attack him just because of the color of his skin and for simply being non-white. He shoved my father in the shoulder twice and spewed derogatory remarks towards him and then baited him into a fist fight saying "whatcha gonna do about it huh" while stunned onlookers whipped out their cell phones and started taking video of the incident. My dad was able to remain calm and cool and collected and simply asked the man to back off and stop his attacks, but the guy kept on persisting to provoke my dad into a fight but when the cops were called he bailed out like a little sissy girly man, but of course not before a good samaritan at the scene was able to get the dudes license plate number for the police report. It's very sad to hear about all the racially charged violence against minorities in our country these days, but when it happens to someone in your own family it really hits home; my father may be Latino and yeah he wasn't born in the USA but he came here in his teens and was adopted by my dear grandmother and became a naturalized citizen, and went to school here, enlisted in the armed forces, served 2 tours in Vietnam and several more in the middle east, also had served many years in the military helping to keep us all safe and protect our freedoms, he is an upstanding law abiding member of society and he pays his fair share of taxes just like we all do and I will be damned if some racist white supremacist freakboy comes along and attempts to disrespect my father like that! There is absolutely zero reason for that kind of behavior and zero tolerance for it as well, so listen up dude if you're out there and you or anyone else that you know just happens to be reading this post then please be on notice, the Costco security cameras got everything on tape and we have several eyewitness statements on record so you are not going to get away free and clear on this one! And a little friendly reminder and tidbit of education for you as well; to be an American means many things; you dont need to be born here to be an American citizen because this country is the original melting pot and unless you are a direct descendant of Native American Indians then chances are you probably have an immigrant background in your family history... oh and by the way no matter what color your skin is or where you come from everybody bleeds red so get off your racist high horse and stop acting like a blundering idiot! You're very lucky that I wasn't with my dad this morning when you decided to attack him cuz it would have not ended well for you I can guarantee you that much! But hey that's ok we got your license plate number and filed a police report so when the cops do eventually find you there will be a court date and charges will be filed against you and I will be there you slimeball and I can't wait to hear the pathetic excuses that you give to the judge for your reckless and uncalled for behavior. This ought to be good for a laugh..."


This saddens and angers me to no end. 2017 might as well be 1950.

That's fucked up. Hopefully that asshole gets what he deserves. :mad:

Post links/vids to the incident when they become available.
 
A good friend of mine posted this on Facebook last night:

"So today my 69yr old latino father was accosted by a racist white supremacist while minding his own business pumping gas at the local Costco store in San Marcos CA around 10:30am. The guy was visibly annoyed for whatever reason and simply walked up to my dad and proceeded to attack him just because of the color of his skin and for simply being non-white. He shoved my father in the shoulder twice and spewed derogatory remarks towards him and then baited him into a fist fight saying "whatcha gonna do about it huh" while stunned onlookers whipped out their cell phones and started taking video of the incident. My dad was able to remain calm and cool and collected and simply asked the man to back off and stop his attacks, but the guy kept on persisting to provoke my dad into a fight but when the cops were called he bailed out like a little sissy girly man, but of course not before a good samaritan at the scene was able to get the dudes license plate number for the police report. It's very sad to hear about all the racially charged violence against minorities in our country these days, but when it happens to someone in your own family it really hits home; my father may be Latino and yeah he wasn't born in the USA but he came here in his teens and was adopted by my dear grandmother and became a naturalized citizen, and went to school here, enlisted in the armed forces, served 2 tours in Vietnam and several more in the middle east, also had served many years in the military helping to keep us all safe and protect our freedoms, he is an upstanding law abiding member of society and he pays his fair share of taxes just like we all do and I will be damned if some racist white supremacist freakboy comes along and attempts to disrespect my father like that! There is absolutely zero reason for that kind of behavior and zero tolerance for it as well, so listen up dude if you're out there and you or anyone else that you know just happens to be reading this post then please be on notice, the Costco security cameras got everything on tape and we have several eyewitness statements on record so you are not going to get away free and clear on this one! And a little friendly reminder and tidbit of education for you as well; to be an American means many things; you dont need to be born here to be an American citizen because this country is the original melting pot and unless you are a direct descendant of Native American Indians then chances are you probably have an immigrant background in your family history... oh and by the way no matter what color your skin is or where you come from everybody bleeds red so get off your racist high horse and stop acting like a blundering idiot! You're very lucky that I wasn't with my dad this morning when you decided to attack him cuz it would have not ended well for you I can guarantee you that much! But hey that's ok we got your license plate number and filed a police report so when the cops do eventually find you there will be a court date and charges will be filed against you and I will be there you slimeball and I can't wait to hear the pathetic excuses that you give to the judge for your reckless and uncalled for behavior. This ought to be good for a laugh..."


This saddens and angers me to no end. 2017 might as well be 1950.

That's disgusting.

Were it me, I'd have sprayed him with gas from the pump and pulled out a lighter. See how brave the little shitbird is then.
 
A good friend of mine posted this on Facebook last night:

"So today my 69yr old latino father was accosted by a racist white supremacist while minding his own business pumping gas at the local Costco store in San Marcos CA around 10:30am. The guy was visibly annoyed for whatever reason and simply walked up to my dad and proceeded to attack him just because of the color of his skin and for simply being non-white. He shoved my father in the shoulder twice and spewed derogatory remarks towards him and then baited him into a fist fight saying "whatcha gonna do about it huh" while stunned onlookers whipped out their cell phones and started taking video of the incident. My dad was able to remain calm and cool and collected and simply asked the man to back off and stop his attacks, but the guy kept on persisting to provoke my dad into a fight but when the cops were called he bailed out like a little sissy girly man, but of course not before a good samaritan at the scene was able to get the dudes license plate number for the police report. It's very sad to hear about all the racially charged violence against minorities in our country these days, but when it happens to someone in your own family it really hits home; my father may be Latino and yeah he wasn't born in the USA but he came here in his teens and was adopted by my dear grandmother and became a naturalized citizen, and went to school here, enlisted in the armed forces, served 2 tours in Vietnam and several more in the middle east, also had served many years in the military helping to keep us all safe and protect our freedoms, he is an upstanding law abiding member of society and he pays his fair share of taxes just like we all do and I will be damned if some racist white supremacist freakboy comes along and attempts to disrespect my father like that! There is absolutely zero reason for that kind of behavior and zero tolerance for it as well, so listen up dude if you're out there and you or anyone else that you know just happens to be reading this post then please be on notice, the Costco security cameras got everything on tape and we have several eyewitness statements on record so you are not going to get away free and clear on this one! And a little friendly reminder and tidbit of education for you as well; to be an American means many things; you dont need to be born here to be an American citizen because this country is the original melting pot and unless you are a direct descendant of Native American Indians then chances are you probably have an immigrant background in your family history... oh and by the way no matter what color your skin is or where you come from everybody bleeds red so get off your racist high horse and stop acting like a blundering idiot! You're very lucky that I wasn't with my dad this morning when you decided to attack him cuz it would have not ended well for you I can guarantee you that much! But hey that's ok we got your license plate number and filed a police report so when the cops do eventually find you there will be a court date and charges will be filed against you and I will be there you slimeball and I can't wait to hear the pathetic excuses that you give to the judge for your reckless and uncalled for behavior. This ought to be good for a laugh..."


This saddens and angers me to no end. 2017 might as well be 1950.

That reminds of a 7-11 incident from 20 or so years ago. We had just rolled back into town from a Dead show at RFK. We pulled into 7-11 where there were 2 skinny white kids all tattooed up, looking like little racists punks, but there were 3 rather large African American guys in the store, so the white kids walked around with their heads down until the the black guys left, then they became Johnny tough guy. Spoutting all kinds of racist shit to the guy behind the counter, then they shoved some 12 or 13 year old kid who had just rode the subway back from RFK with us. Me, my brother and our 2 friends had enough and got out of the car and went after them. They ran like the cowards they were. We spent the rest of the night trying to find them, but never did. The funny thing is, for those who have met me can tell you, I'm not the most intimidating guy and my brother isn't much bigger (back then he really wasn't much bigger and I have put on 20 lbs since then).
 
And Trump finally provides evidence:
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That reminds of a 7-11 incident from 20 or so years ago. We had just rolled back into town from a Dead show at RFK. We pulled into 7-11 where there were 2 skinny white kids all tattooed up, looking like little racists punks, but there were 3 rather large African American guys in the store, so the white kids walked around with their heads down until the the black guys left, then they became Johnny tough guy. Spoutting all kinds of racist shit to the guy behind the counter, then they shoved some 12 or 13 year old kid who had just rode the subway back from RFK with us. Me, my brother and our 2 friends had enough and got out of the car and went after them. They ran like the cowards they were. We spent the rest of the night trying to find them, but never did. The funny thing is, for those who have met me can tell you, I'm not the most intimidating guy and my brother isn't much bigger (back then he really wasn't much bigger and I have put on 20 lbs since then).

Back in the late 80s and early 90s, my friends and I used to go to a bunch of shows in the Lehigh Valley at places like the Airport Music Hall or over in Trenton, NJ at City Gardens. It didn't matter if it was a hardcore show, metal show or ska show, you got Hammer Skins in PA and AC Skins in Jersey, both just a bunch of neo-nazi d-bags. They'd always do this wall of death thing were a bunch would get in the pit, line up parallel to the stage and lock arms across shoulder then rush the crowd at the stage; the whole idea was to crush people against the stage. Except for the big monster guys in the groups, they'd always fight in packs with greater numbers than who ever they were going after and if you were black or hispanic, they definitely went after you. It took a lot of their bullshit for people to start banding together & overwhelm their numbers when they'd start shenaginans.

The NE PA region was so full of these groups that you'd often see skinhead kids hitchhiking on the highways w/ cardboard signs looking to go to one of their enclaves. Hammer Skins used to drop propaganda and try to recruit on my college campus occasionally. It was a lot of disaffected suburban white kids looking for acceptance and community & having a common enemy of non-whites/immigrants was a critical part of the whole equation.
 
ok...somebody help me here. why is it that the dumpster admin. have been called "populists", when the definition of the term is championing the little guy against the rich elite? they ARE the rich elite. how can they be populists?
 
ok...somebody help me here. why is it that the dumpster admin. have been called "populists", when the definition of the term is championing the little guy against the rich elite? they ARE the rich elite. how can they be populists?


I assume that's a rhetorical question but the easy answer is that DJT ran under the guise of populism.
 
I assume that's a rhetorical question but the easy answer is that DJT ran under the guise of populism.
no, it wasn't rhetorical. i just don't understand how anyone didn't pickup on that. that would be like Rush Limbaugh running on the socialist ticket.
 
oh....i feel so bad for former Gov. McCrory......he can't find a job because everyone considers him a bigot, after he signed HB 2 in NC.
WHAAAAAAAAAA!!!! :cry::cry::cry:

"“If you disagree with the politically correct thought police on this new definition of gender, you’re a bigot, you’re the worst of evil,” he said. “It’s almost as if I broke a law.”

first it's not a NEW definition. been around for about 4 decades.

second, if you treat people as less than people because of how you feel about their identity, the ARE a bigot and one of the evils.

third, if you treated those same people in a way that removes any of their civil rights, then you DID break the law. they're called the 1st and 14th amendment. perhaps you should read them.

hey asshole.....guess what.....actions have consequences. rotflmao

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pat-mccrory-bigot_us_58c7ff26e4b0428c7f13352a
 
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