OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Chad said:
That is actually pretty funny. You do not have to choose a party to register to vote (although some states make you pick if you want to vote in the primaries) and your ballots are secret so there is no way they can prove you are affiliated to a party. It is another case of the republicans grasping at straws.
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And what, you pass up on better candidates because of a quota. So the Republicans are all of the sudden in favor of Affirmative Action...for Republicans?

Also funny, is that if you are an academic and teaching various subjects...even civics, political science, and law...you still have to teach the facts on those subjects, ESPECIALLY in public institutions. It reminds me of this piece I read earlier today:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/19/opini...ers-love-him-not-the-media-stanley/index.html

In one paragraph the conservative author writes:

"My conservative politics are unusual within journalism. The average Trumpite would think I was a pinko. But the average editor probably thinks I'm to the right of Chuck Norris. And while that institutional liberalism is not universal -- after all, Fox and Breitbart are part of the media, too -- and does not routinely translate into bias, the right-wing skepticism of our motives is understandable."

Real journalists and readers of such know that good journalists and journalism in general can be written by folks regardless of their political lean. Good reporting isn't about making the author or readers happy, it's about gathering and presenting the facts. Teaching is the same. Black teachers don't shy away from slavery because they find it deplorable, and most white teachers are the same. They wouldn't avoid talking about this horrible part of our nation's history to avoid discomfort (including shame and maybe guilt)...only a bad educator or education system would allow this. Science teachers need to teach science. Religion has its place in private religiously run/funded institutions. Creationism is by its very nature NOT science.

But I digress. Shithead politician proposes shitty law...as per usual, especially for the right.
 
Chad said:
No idea. You tell me.
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Strict photo ID required: Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin.[15]
Strict non-photo ID required: Arizona and Ohio.
Non-Strict photo ID required: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Texas.
Non-Strict non-photo ID required: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Washington.
No ID required to vote at ballot box: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.

In states with non-strict voter ID laws, other methods of validation are allowed, which vary by state. Possible alternatives are: signing an affidavit, having a poll worker vouch for voter, having election officials verify a voter's identity after the vote is cast, or having the voter return an inquiry mailed to their reported address.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States
 
Lerxst said:
Strict photo ID required: Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin.[15]
Strict non-photo ID required: Arizona and Ohio.
Non-Strict photo ID required: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Texas.
Non-Strict non-photo ID required: Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Kentucky, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Washington.
No ID required to vote at ballot box: California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.

In states with non-strict voter ID laws, other methods of validation are allowed, which vary by state. Possible alternatives are: signing an affidavit, having a poll worker vouch for voter, having election officials verify a voter's identity after the vote is cast, or having the voter return an inquiry mailed to their reported address.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States
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that makes me laugh. What is the difference between strict photo id and non strict photo id? does that mean in states with non strict photo ids can I hand them a picture with a note signed by Epstein's mom?
 
Chad said:
that makes me laugh. What is the difference between strict photo id and non strict photo id? does that mean in states with non strict photo ids can I hand them a picture with a note signed by Epstein's mom?
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Chad said:
that makes me laugh. What is the difference between strict photo id and non strict photo id? does that mean in states with non strict photo ids can I hand them a picture with a note signed by Epstein's mom?
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That usually means they will accept things like recent power bills & property tax bills; things that confirm your registered name & address (but often you need to show multiples)
 
Lerxst said:
That usually means they will accept things like recent power bills & property tax bills; things that confirm your registered name & address (but often you need to show multiples)
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Wouldn't that be non strict non photo ID? bills and things like that don't have a picture on it.

I went back and checked in the link. It means if you don't have a photo ID, you can cast a provisional ballot at the time, then you have to come back with a photo ID for the ballot to be counted. That seems unbelievably stupid to me.
 
335clone said:
I don't have to show my ID. I walk in, tell them my name and verify my address and they check me off the list and hand me a ballot.
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That's how it was in Indiana for the first few years I voted... the last two I had to show my driver's license.
 
Chad said:
Wouldn't that be non strict non photo ID? bills and things like that don't have a picture on it.

I went back and checked in the link. It means if you don't have a photo ID, you can cast a provisional ballot at the time, then you have to come back with a photo ID for the ballot to be counted. That seems unbelievably stupid to me.
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Sorry, I misread your post.
Some non-strict photo states require action on the part of the voter and some do not. Some provisional ballots are accepted as long as the signature on a voter affidavit successfully matches what's on record. At least casting a provisional ballot that is subsequently accepted preserves the person's right to vote absent photo ID
 
back and forth with a trump supporter on rig talk:

me: hey so trump has spent 11.3 million on travel in his first month. I've seen you post for the last few years complaining about how obama spent so much on travel but he only spent 12 million per year. are you at all concerned?

him: Since when are weekends considered vacations? As for the travel costs, who the fuck knows or cares. Only the assholes that lost the election. There are bigger issues at hand.

me: seems hypocritical to complain about wasting money when the other party is in power and then not care about much larger amounts of spending when your party is in power, especially from the party who claims to be fiscally conservative.

him: LOL


this is the level of stupid we are up against.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
So where are these places where you don't have to show ID to vote?
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I live in MA, and I've never been asked for ID to vote. They ask me my address, I give it to them, and they ask if I'm the person listed for that address. I could give them any address and just answer "yes" when they ask me if I'm so-and-so and the real so-and-so wouldn't be able to vote. Not a good system.
 
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