OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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mongooz said:
to give a little credit to a few of the electors, there were a number of them that did not want to vote for dumpster, but the STATES have changed their elector laws to REQUIRE the electors to vote for the person who won the most electoral votes in that state. in many states it's an all or go to jail deal. they would be prosecuted by the A.G. of the state.

the states need to fix their fucking laws. but they don't because they are all red or blue and want that to be the only way their electors vote.
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If those electors truly believed Trump shouldn't have been President, they would have gone to jail and had the ACLU represent them in challenging the laws. They didn't.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
If those electors truly believed Trump shouldn't have been President, they would have gone to jail and had the ACLU represent them in challenging the laws. They didn't.
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In most cases the elector is just replaced with a compliant elector. So it wouldn’t have changed anything anyway.
 
mongooz said:
to give a little credit to a few of the electors, there were a number of them that did not want to vote for dumpster, but the STATES have changed their elector laws to REQUIRE the electors to vote for the person who won the most electoral votes in that state. in many states it's an all or go to jail deal. they would be prosecuted by the A.G. of the state.

the states need to fix their fucking laws. but they don't because they are all red or blue and want that to be the only way their electors vote.
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I'm not a lawyer, and certainly not a Constitutional scholar, but I'm betting that push come to shove, faithless elector state laws would be found unconstitutional. It is pretty clear that the founding fathers did not intend the electoral process to be automatic (otherwise, they'd have just wrote it that way in the Constitution). Also, in the Federalist Paper where Hamilton discusses the Electoral College, he specifically says that one of the purposes of the electors was to keep unqualified candidates out of the office. Given this, it is pretty obvious that electors have a constitutionally guaranteed right to NOT vote their pledge if they see fit to do so.

In fact, I think the few Democratic electors that voted for someone other than Clinton (was it Kasich?) did so in order to try force this issue. Smartly, their states did not attempt to invoke their faithless elector laws.
 
I just e-mailed my congressman. Maybe I should snail-mail them too.

Dear Mr. Himes,

I am relatively new to Stamford, having moved up here from Atlanta, GA back in February of 2015 for a new job. Although I will always think of Atlanta as my home, I am happy to be living in a city and state that are largely not responsible for the travesty that was the election of Donald Trump to the office of President of the United States.

I don't consider myself a Democrat or a Republican. I do consider myself a sane and rational human being. It is for this reason that I implore you to hold fast and strong in your opposition to Donald Trump and his gross incompetence. I have never written to my representative before but this dangerous, incompetent man has in less than two weeks made Americans less safe at home and abroad. Not only should you hold Mr. Trump accountable, you should also call out your fellow Congressmen - especially decent Republicans and conservatives - to put party politics aside and to oppose this man and his agenda.

I trust that you will continue to fight the good fight against fear, hatred, lies (sorry, "alternative facts"), corruption, conflicts of interest, racism, misogyny, disdain for science, and a general lack of fitness for the highest office in the United States (and on Earth). The eyes of history (and the rest of the world) are upon us. We cannot allow America to forget herself. We cannot allow this two-bit wannabe dictator and his group of accomplices to achieve their goals. It is counter to everything that this country and her good-hearted people stand for.

Thank you.
 
Here's something that should be added to the dictionary for 2017:

Twat
/twät/ -- a person who uses twitter to mock, whine, bitch, and otherwise complain about anyone who dares question, fact-check or otherwise call into doubt one's statements.
 
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mongooz said:
man....if i were prez, i wouldn't be making exec orders banning classes of people.....i would make one that declares all health care to be NON-PROFIT. fuck those greedy bastards. and if they don't like it, they can tell it the battalion of marines standing ready outside their building. :mad:
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That executive order would be unconstitutional; outside presidential powers/jurisdiction.
 
Given that Trump is suddenly cracking down on campaign promises I hope the Clintons have a plan for leaving the country before Trump can install an attorney general.
 
This should go in the automotive forum but the commentary would probably end it up back here anyway.

My father in law has this armored personnel carrier in his shop today to install police lights on for the city of Brea. I think they bought it surplus from the government of South Africa for $1. Because there might be an armed insurrection at the mall.

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It did get my son smiling for the first time in two days:


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Gun ports

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