OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Some thoughts from an impartial view on the recent election. John Boyer is a professor at Virginia Tech, and has the alter ego, The Plaid Avenger.



Edit: I'm in total agreement with Silver Linings #3 & #5 and part of why I'm not on the whine train.
 
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So, any ideas on a code name the Secret Service should use for Trump other than "Mogul"?
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Folks, I'd like to recommend that we stop the personal attacks on Donald Trump. Though we may not like the fact that he is (or technically, will be) president, he is. The office (if not the man) deserves our respect and support. I think we owe it to the roughly 50% of Americans that voted for him to at least be respectful to the office and the person they put there. We can criticize but still be civil.

I have loathed all of the "secret muslim", "obummer", "birth certificate" shit that we've endured for the last eight years. I don't think we want to be in that camp.
 
GomezAddams said:
Folks, I'd like to recommend that we stop the personal attacks on Donald Trump. Though we may not like the fact that he is (or technically, will be) president, he is. The office (if not the man) deserves our respect and support. I think we owe it to the roughly 50% of Americans that voted for him to at least be respectful to the office and the person they put there. We can criticize but still be civil.

I have loathed all of the "secret muslim", "obummer", "birth certificate" shit that we've endured for the last eight years. I don't think we want to be in that camp.
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not getting my respect nor support.
he is nothing like obama. or any president that came before him.
i'd rather have Nixon back.
 
GomezAddams said:
Folks, I'd like to recommend that we stop the personal attacks on Donald Trump. Though we may not like the fact that he is (or technically, will be) president, he is. The office (if not the man) deserves our respect and support. I think we owe it to the roughly 50% of Americans that voted for him to at least be respectful to the office and the person they put there. We can criticize but still be civil.

I have loathed all of the "secret muslim", "obummer", "birth certificate" shit that we've endured for the last eight years. I don't think we want to be in that camp.
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It's more like 25% of eligible voters who voted for him, but I certainly think it's time to start criticizing the choices he makes going forward, as he's apparently been given a pass for the choices he's made so far.
 
Reports from inside the Trump team are that Trump thought he would lose, didn’t understand the extent of the presidency, and didn’t even realize he would have to replace the staff after taking office. It’s time to Trump to admit he never wanted the job, never put any thought into the job, and can’t do the job. He needs to tell the electors to vote for Clinton. The 75% of America that didn’t vote for him will forgive him. But if he keeps going forward he’s going to end up with most of the world hating him.
 
I think we're already losing sight of the differences between intolerance of Obama vs fact-based concern over someone (trump) woefully unqualified for one of the most powerful positions a human being at any time in history can hold. Respect for that position is one of the driving forces here.

And taking the piss out of things is sort of a major theme of this whole forum.
 
jp_nyc said:
Reports from inside the Trump team are that Trump thought he would lose, didn’t understand the extent of the presidency, and didn’t even realize he would have to replace the staff after taking office. It’s time to Trump to admit he never wanted the job, never put any thought into the job, and can’t do the job. He needs to tell the electors to vote for Clinton. The 75% of America that didn’t vote for him will forgive him. But if he keeps going forward he’s going to end up with most of the world hating him.
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Do you have sources for these statements about trump's mindset? I'd very much like to read them.
 
jp_nyc said:
Reports from inside the Trump team are that Trump thought he would lose, didn’t understand the extent of the presidency, and didn’t even realize he would have to replace the staff after taking office. It’s time to Trump to admit he never wanted the job, never put any thought into the job, and can’t do the job. He needs to tell the electors to vote for Clinton. The 75% of America that didn’t vote for him will forgive him. But if he keeps going forward he’s going to end up with most of the world hating him.
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no matter how much of a cluster fuck his presidency may turn into.....he WON......and that's all he cares about.....well and money. he will plow right ahead and fuck up everything. he's a billionaire.....he doesn't give a fuck.
 
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Breitbart defends Steve Bannon:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-bannon-friend-jewish-people-defender-israel/
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I admittedly know/knew nothing about breitbart.com until last week (more like yesterday, but whatever). I also knew nothing of Andrew Breitbart, who died very young in 2012. I also knew nothing about the "alt-right" before last week.

What I found (on wikipedia), is that Andrew Breitbart (who was Jewish), started the Breitbart "news" site "with the aim of founding a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel". Breitbart.com has a "news bureau" in Jerusalem that presumably(?) still reports news with a pro-Israel slant.

How then does a site started by someone who is Jewish, with the intent of reporting pro-Israel news become a site that is run by a (reportedly) anti-Semite with ties to the alt-right, which is supposedly tied in with white supremacists?

Is there part of the story I'm missing here?

FWIW: I'm asking because I don't know. I'm in the dark here, legitimate question.
 
wagdog said:
I admittedly know/knew nothing about breitbart.com until last week (more like yesterday, but whatever). I also knew nothing of Andrew Breitbart, who died very young in 2012. I also knew nothing about the "alt-right" before last week.

What I found (on wikipedia), is that Andrew Breitbart (who was Jewish), started the Breitbart "news" site "with the aim of founding a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel". Breitbart.com has a "news bureau" in Jerusalem that presumably(?) still reports news with a pro-Israel slant.

How then does a site started by someone who is Jewish, with the intent of reporting pro-Israel news become a site that is run by a (reportedly) anti-Semite with ties to the alt-right, which is supposedly tied in with white supremacists?

Is there part of the story I'm missing here?

FWIW: I'm asking because I don't know. I'm in the dark here, legitimate question.
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i would suggest you look up Steve Bannon. and things surrounding him. he's the one who took over Breibart news and is now trump's chief of staff.
 
mongooz said:
i would suggest you look up Steve Bannon. and things surrounding him. he's the one who took over Breibart news and is now trump's chief of staff.
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Got that part.

I just don't see how the site supposedly went from being pro-Israel (and still has a bureau in Jerusalem) to being a mouth piece for a movement with ties to white supremacists. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it really seems bizarre and perhaps there is more to the story than simple sound-bites.
 
wagdog said:
How then does a site started by someone who is Jewish, with the intent of reporting pro-Israel news become a site that is run by a (reportedly) anti-Semite with ties to the alt-right, which is supposedly tied in with white supremacists?
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Breitbart was a huckster like Glenn Beck. He talked out one side of his mouth about loving Jews and Israel, and from the other side he talked about how Spielberg, Katzenberg, and Geffen were running Hollywood cabal to destroy America’s morals. He got overlooked at the time because he wasn’t the worst slanted op-ed hack on the web—people were focused on the much nastier shit coming from the rest of the alt-right. Like the alt-right in general the site has become steadily more bonkers as everybody tries to be more of an uncompromising, finger-wagging, passes-all-purity-tests conservative.
 
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