OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

[gtrjunior]

Grievance #2, 3, 4, 5... : People suddenly acting like they're Tom Clancy when Obama has bombed Libya, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen, with dubious authority and filmsy intelligence, exploding real people -- "terrorists," partisans who have nothing to do with "terrorism," and civilians alike (American citizens among them) -- into chunks of meat... whole families, wedding parties, mothers in front of children, children in front of their mothers... and people are all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Muslims. 9/11. Turururururursts.

Mass deportations and mass surveillance ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Obama is bae; trust him.

Miserable record of transparency from the "most transparent administration ever." Record-breaking prosecution of whistleblowers and threatening journalists with jail for not divulging sources. Not reckless people with a vendetta (legit or no) like Assange but people motivated by public interest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Woke as a joke.

Failing to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc., for Iraq because something something we're going to look to the future, not the past. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jettisoning a huge (s)well of organized grassroots support in 2008 that could have put the pressure on for any number of actual progressive intiatives, perhaps single-payer healthcare, instead of the shitshow that is Obamacare. (Just got a packet detailing my amazing new rate increase.) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Incremental change is so inspiring.

Etc., etc., etc.

Yes, unlike Trump, he's competent and not a dangerously insecure hatemonger. I'm scared for women, children, minorities, the press, internet guitarists, and pretty much everybody in the US and around the world. But people should have been a whole lot more pissed off about what Obama carried over from Bush and what he came up with on his own. Failing to voice legitimate grievances has a way of giving voice to illegitimate grievances. In short: we suck but I think there's a lot of dumb and wrong about why. Niemoller and what have you.

I find Trump so pitiable a human being that it's hard to hate him. I am super-pissed at Clinton and that whole machine for putting us through this for entirely selfish reasons when there was a candidate with yuge popularity amongst independents, especially in a race against a fucking maniac. I hope the Klin-tons go away and never come back.

This is a vent. I don't like the bulk of what I read in this thread but I don't like writing or arguing and I'm not looking to get into it with anyone. Just had to take a word dump.

*spits*

Vent away, man....Vent away.

 

[mongooz]

So you're expecting Trump to be different from all other politicians and actually deliver on his campaign promises? I don't see any of that happening. Hillary isn't going to jail, or even going to trial, either.

i'm afraid that he'll take things way further than what he told us about.

 

[GomezAddams]

In other news, at least californians can stay legally baked for the next 4 years.

Or until the Republican President, House, Senate, and soon to be SCOTUS enact a law to make cannabis illegal at the federal level, and to ban legalization at the state level.

 

[Lerxst]

So you're expecting Trump to be different from all other politicians and actually deliver on his campaign promises? I don't see any of that happening. Hillary isn't going to jail, or even going to trial, either.

No, just commenting on what I believe the economic impact of eliminating illegal immigration would be in this country. I haven't seen any impartial reporting on the topic to indicate there would be a net gain, economically, when you subtract the contribution of illegal/undoc labor versus the reduction in perceived entitlement & social services consumption by that same group of people.

 

[GDSmithTX]

I'm glad my kids aren't old enough yet. How do you explain this to a child.

I woke my 14 y/o son up 45 minutes early this morning for exactly that reason: so I could explain to him how the nation could be so abysmally stupid, why this happened, and what to expect. I had to tell him about the mistakes that were made, particularly in not taking something that can dangerous seriously enough, despite how laughable and surreally absurd it might seem.

He was saddened and almost in disbelief, because like a lot of naive young people, he has a shiny, optimistic idealism that hasn't been much sullied and scratched up by the world yet. This is a huge dent that isn't going to be fixed.

 

[GDSmithTX]

Or until the Republican President, House, Senate, and soon to be SCOTUS enact a law to make cannabis illegal at the federal level, and to ban legalization at the state level.

Well, it's been illegal federally for like 80 years.

 

[Beyer160]

Clinton won the popular vote.
Trump won more electoral college votes.

this is why the E.C. needs to go. and has for 100 years.

The GOP won two of the last five elections (2/3 of their victories) because of the Electoral College- that motherfucker's not going ANYWHERE.

 

[shoeless]

Well, it's been illegal federally for like 80 years.

That was my thought as well. The feds have just been looking the other way for the most part. We'll see if that changes, but I kinda doubt it will. There's more to lose than gain fighting that battle IMO. Plus, I think the feds are watching the states closely to see how legalization goes. There's a lot of tax money to be made there.

 

[smurfco]

And some owned slaves. And some signed off on the extermination of whole groups of people. And some engaged in useless wars that costs thousands of lives. And so on.

That's no defense of Trump or assault. But a failure of ethics is not limited to him. Not even in this century.

Yeah but when the Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the customers.

 

[Mark Wein]

Its not easy. Once we saw how it was going to end, my wife and I were up all night. Trying to explain to 2 daughters how a guy who brags about walking up to women and grabbing their pussies without permission is the leader of their country is not an easy thing.

My eight year old daughter was pretty upset this morning too. Apparently her second grade classmates have been parroting their parents so much that the kids are practically at war with each other over this shut. Imagine an eight year old without the ability or maturity to process the things their parents are saying thinking that the world is now going to shit because of an election that they don't understand.


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[Peen Simmons]

Grievance #2, 3, 4, 5... : People suddenly acting like they're Tom Clancy when Obama has bombed Libya, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen, with dubious authority and filmsy intelligence, exploding real people -- "terrorists," partisans who have nothing to do with "terrorism," and civilians alike (American citizens among them) -- into chunks of meat... whole families, wedding parties, mothers in front of children, children in front of their mothers... and people are all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Muslims. 9/11. Turururururursts.

Mass deportations and mass surveillance ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Obama is bae; trust him.

Miserable record of transparency from the "most transparent administration ever." Record-breaking prosecution of whistleblowers and threatening journalists with jail for not divulging sources. Not reckless people with a vendetta (legit or no) like Assange but people motivated by public interest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Woke as a joke.

Failing to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc., for Iraq because something something we're going to look to the future, not the past. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jettisoning a huge (s)well of organized grassroots support in 2008 that could have put the pressure on for any number of actual progressive intiatives, perhaps single-payer healthcare, instead of the shitshow that is Obamacare. (Just got a packet detailing my amazing new rate increase.) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Incremental change is so inspiring.

Etc., etc., etc.

Yes, unlike Trump, he's competent and not a dangerously insecure hatemonger. I'm scared for women, children, minorities, the press, internet guitarists, and pretty much everybody in the US and around the world. But people should have been a whole lot more pissed off about what Obama carried over from Bush and what he came up with on his own. Failing to voice legitimate grievances has a way of giving voice to illegitimate grievances. In short: we suck but I think there's a lot of dumb and wrong about why. Niemoller and what have you.

I find Trump so pitiable a human being that it's hard to hate him. I am super-pissed at Clinton and that whole machine for putting us through this for entirely selfish reasons when there was a candidate with yuge popularity amongst independents, especially in a race against a fucking maniac. I hope the Klin-tons go away and never come back.

This is a vent. I don't like the bulk of what I read in this thread but I don't like writing or arguing and I'm not looking to get into it with anyone. Just had to take a word dump.

*spits*

Correct.

 

[335clone]

Or until the Republican President, House, Senate, and soon to be SCOTUS enact a law to make cannabis illegal at the federal level, and to ban legalization at the state level.

It already is illegal at the federal level. Has been since 1937.

STATES RIGHTS !!!

Not worried about it, never really has been an issue as it is local polices declared lowest priority.

YMMV though.

 

[335clone]

I woke my 14 y/o son up 45 minutes early this morning for exactly that reason: so I could explain to him how the nation could be so abysmally stupid, why this happened, and what to expect. I had to tell him about the mistakes that were made, particularly in not taking something that can dangerous seriously enough, despite how laughable and surreally absurd it might seem.

He was saddened and almost in disbelief, because like a lot of naive young people, he has a shiny, optimistic idealism that hasn't been much sullied and scratched up by the world yet. This is a huge dent that isn't going to be fixed.

Last night was both my sons first time voting in an election. They are not amused by what has happened, especially after years of my lectures about the responsibilities of being a citizen.

 

[BlockInlay]

I woke my 14 y/o son up 45 minutes early this morning for exactly that reason: so I could explain to him how the nation could be so abysmally stupid, why this happened, and what to expect. I had to tell him about the mistakes that were made, particularly in not taking something that can dangerous seriously enough, despite how laughable and surreally absurd it might seem.

He was saddened and almost in disbelief, because like a lot of naive young people, he has a shiny, optimistic idealism that hasn't been much sullied and scratched up by the world yet. This is a huge dent that isn't going to be fixed.

A good friend of mine is a teacher and many of his students are low income and minority students. He said the anxiety over being deported is extremely high today.

Two of my friends have 2nd graders that are both worried their friends will be deported or thrown in jail for being Muslim.

 

[Chad]

My eight year old daughter was pretty upset this morning too. Apparently her second grade classmates have been parroting their parents so much that the kids are practically at war with each other over this shut. Imagine an eight year old without the ability or maturity to process the things their parents are saying thinking that the world is now going to shit because of an election that they don't understand.


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My youngest is 11 so not too far ahead of yours. I am dreading picking her up today, no telling how it went.

 

[Chad]

So this was my Facebook post this morning. Anyone who has posted a negative comment, the comment was deleted and person unfriended. I honestly can not be friends with anyone who supports him.

Dear Facebook friends,
If you voted for or support Donald Trump, please unfriend me. Obviously we aren't really friends. Thanks.

 

[sonik]

*something about subdivision houses falling down*

 

[tiger roach]

So this was my Facebook post this morning. Anyone who has posted a negative comment, the comment was deleted and person unfriended. I honestly can not be friends with anyone who supports him.

Dear Facebook friends,
If you voted for or support Donald Trump, please unfriend me. Obviously we aren't really friends. Thanks.

Last night I was considering doing something just like that. I held off because almost all of my "friends" who are trumpkins are also relatives.

Another option is to leave them as a friend but you can choose not to see all their posts in your news feed, for the ones who can't resist posting lame political crap.

 

[smurfco]

So this was my Facebook post this morning. Anyone who has posted a negative comment, the comment was deleted and person unfriended. I honestly can not be friends with anyone who supports him.

Dear Facebook friends,
If you voted for or support Donald Trump, please unfriend me. Obviously we aren't really friends. Thanks.

I get where you're coming from and I don't begrudge you that one bit, but having grown up in Georgia I know / am related to many Trump supporters and most of them are decent people and not monsters. Or at least I have to believe they aren't monsters. I'm not excusing their vote or their behavior but I can't write off half the population like that, including family members I love. I just can't...

It is depressing as fuck though.

 

[smurfco]

A better way to sum that up is: while both are worthy of condemnation, there is a difference between ignorance and evil.