OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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Chad
Slender Hobbit
You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? There are 2 ways. If you are an employer and you hire and illegal immigrant for work you pay a ridiculous fine and go to jail. Building wall, threatening deportation does nothing. As long as there is a demand for cheap undocumented workers, people will come and come no matter what we do to stop it. Same thing with illegal drugs. Going after the supply is not the answer you need to kill the demand. The other way is to invest in foreign countries. Why do people sneak in to ours? Because they have nothing at home. If you can't feed your children or fear for your safety, you will do whatever you can to get out.
2manband
Kick Henry Jackassowski
I love the irony of the "candidate of the people" who bemoaned the "rigged system" losing the popular vote but ending up president anyway because of the electoral college.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
Its not easy. Once we saw how it was going to end, my wife and I were up all night. Trying to explain to 2 daughters how a guy who brags about walking up to women and grabbing their pussies without permission is the leader of their country is not an easy thing.
12Pack
Dyslexic b00n
Well, we got this going for us...which is nice.
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sonik
Motor City Madman
And some owned slaves. And some signed off on the extermination of whole groups of people. And some engaged in useless wars that costs thousands of lives. And so on.
That's no defense of Trump or assault. But a failure of ethics is not limited to him. Not even in this century.
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
Don't apologize.
People are going to be trying to normalize this. Don't let them. This is neither normal nor acceptable. There has to be a middle ground between dignity and utter contempt. But I will never support him, nor will I respect his supporters.
gtrjunior
Wannabe
Good points....
shoeless
Riffin'
Brings the butt hurt to a whole 'nuther level, huh?
sonik
Motor City Madman
I agree, but apparently half the American people aren't that fussed about it.
It's fucked.
mikesr1963
Gonna walk my dog, you?
I don't have gold stocks but I've got 3 physical pounds of it and I'm digging it.
shoeless
Riffin'
Digging it, as in burying it in the backyard? Where exactly do you live again?
mikesr1963
Gonna walk my dog, you?
God damn at the glass houses being lived in today. If your that sensitive about it you're fucked. Pull your fucking dick straps up, take your life by the balls and courageously live your life. Work to create a future for your children instead to trying to explain to them why because of this they are destine to be losers and must allow strange men grab their pussy.
Lerxst
spaghetti and blankets
Excellent points.
In conjunction w/ halting illegal immigration, prepare for the cost of everything to go up as you lose the cheap illegal labor that supplies dishwashers, landscapers, construction labors, field pickers, meat packers, housekeepers, and all the other glamorous jobs American citizens are lining up to fill.
mikesr1963
Gonna walk my dog, you?
NO, been buying gold my entire life. I was always told gold stocks ain't worth shit when the fan starts spinning because they are just paper and you can never actually get the physical gold after your broker takes a dive from the top floor. Physical gold can always be spent anywhere and everywhere.
GDSmithTX
Corporate cog
I happened last night. I guess you missed it.
Theodore
I gotta move
Grievance #2, 3, 4, 5... : People suddenly acting like they're Tom Clancy when Obama has bombed Libya, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen, with dubious authority and filmsy intelligence, exploding real people -- "terrorists," partisans who have nothing to do with "terrorism," and civilians alike (American citizens among them) -- into chunks of meat... whole families, wedding parties, mothers in front of children, children in front of their mothers... and people are all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Muslims. 9/11. Turururururursts.
Mass deportations and mass surveillance ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Obama is bae; trust him.
Miserable record of transparency from the "most transparent administration ever." Record-breaking prosecution of whistleblowers and threatening journalists with jail for not divulging sources. Not reckless people with a vendetta (legit or no) like Assange but people motivated by public interest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Woke as a joke.
Failing to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc., for Iraq because something something we're going to look to the future, not the past. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jettisoning a huge (s)well of organized grassroots support in 2008 that could have put the pressure on for any number of actual progressive intiatives, perhaps single-payer healthcare, instead of the shitshow that is Obamacare. (Just got a packet detailing my amazing new rate increase.) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Incremental change is so inspiring.
Etc., etc., etc.
Yes, unlike Trump, he's competent and not a dangerously insecure hatemonger. I'm scared for women, children, minorities, the press, internet guitarists, and pretty much everybody in the US and around the world. But people should have been a whole lot more pissed off about what Obama carried over from Bush and what he came up with on his own. Failing to voice legitimate grievances has a way of giving voice to illegitimate grievances. In short: we suck but I think there's a lot of dumb and wrong about why. Niemoller and what have you.
I find Trump so pitiable a human being that it's hard to hate him. I am super-pissed at Clinton and that whole machine for putting us through this for entirely selfish reasons when there was a candidate with yuge popularity amongst independents, especially in a race against a fucking maniac. I hope the Klin-tons go away and never come back.
This is a vent. I don't like the bulk of what I read in this thread but I don't like writing or arguing and I'm not looking to get into it with anyone. Just had to take a word dump.
*spits*
Mass deportations and mass surveillance ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Obama is bae; trust him.
Miserable record of transparency from the "most transparent administration ever." Record-breaking prosecution of whistleblowers and threatening journalists with jail for not divulging sources. Not reckless people with a vendetta (legit or no) like Assange but people motivated by public interest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Woke as a joke.
Failing to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc., for Iraq because something something we're going to look to the future, not the past. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jettisoning a huge (s)well of organized grassroots support in 2008 that could have put the pressure on for any number of actual progressive intiatives, perhaps single-payer healthcare, instead of the shitshow that is Obamacare. (Just got a packet detailing my amazing new rate increase.) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Incremental change is so inspiring.
Etc., etc., etc.
Yes, unlike Trump, he's competent and not a dangerously insecure hatemonger. I'm scared for women, children, minorities, the press, internet guitarists, and pretty much everybody in the US and around the world. But people should have been a whole lot more pissed off about what Obama carried over from Bush and what he came up with on his own. Failing to voice legitimate grievances has a way of giving voice to illegitimate grievances. In short: we suck but I think there's a lot of dumb and wrong about why. Niemoller and what have you.
I find Trump so pitiable a human being that it's hard to hate him. I am super-pissed at Clinton and that whole machine for putting us through this for entirely selfish reasons when there was a candidate with yuge popularity amongst independents, especially in a race against a fucking maniac. I hope the Klin-tons go away and never come back.
This is a vent. I don't like the bulk of what I read in this thread but I don't like writing or arguing and I'm not looking to get into it with anyone. Just had to take a word dump.
*spits*
shoeless
Riffin'
So you're expecting Trump to be different from all other politicians and actually deliver on his campaign promises? I don't see any of that happening. Hillary isn't going to jail, or even going to trial, either.
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