OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Help!I'maRock! said:
For the record, the polls here in New York have Clinton at 50%, Trump at 30% and Johnson at 8%. If that's indeed how the math works out in November, the only vote of mine that would actually count for something is a vote for Johnson, as it means matching funds for the Libertarians in the next election. So I guess that's how it'll go.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/new-york/#plus
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With Clinton picking Kaine, she should have VA last locked up, but I'm not willing to risk it. :grin:
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
Because this country needs an option that will flush the crazies out of the major parties, and re-align their platforms with more leftist policies.
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Third parties aren’t going to flush out the crazies. If anything they’ll just make things worse, as the far right and left go farther to compete. If the Libertarians have matching funds in 2020 the GOP candidates will run on something crazy like dismantling the entire federal government. And the Democrats will all turn into Elizabeth Warren, screaming at wealthy people (themselves excluded, of course), introducing legislation that has no hope of passage, and accomplishing nothing.
 
jp_nyc said:
Third parties aren’t going to flush out the crazies. If anything they’ll just make things worse, as the far right and left go farther to compete.
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maybe if the both go far enough, they will meet and then they can just combine into one overall cluster fuck and we can move on to create something that actually works.
 
jp_nyc said:
Third parties aren’t going to flush out the crazies. If anything they’ll just make things worse, as the far right and left go farther to compete. If the Libertarians have matching funds in 2020 the GOP candidates will run on something crazy like dismantling the entire federal government. And the Democrats will all turn into Elizabeth Warren, screaming at wealthy people (themselves excluded, of course), introducing legislation that has no hope of passage, and accomplishing nothing.
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Well, I was ok with her screaming at the Wells guy yesterday. His answers to questions were in a word, lame.
 
sunvalleylaw said:
Well, I was ok with her screaming at the Wells guy yesterday. His answers to questions were in a word, lame.
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It tend to agree on that one. Except that it to many people it probably was just Warren up to her usual schtick. They need to spread it around.
 
sunvalleylaw said:
Just cause she consistently calls BS on BS doesn't mean it is a schtick.
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My point is that it becomes schtick when she’s the one doing it over and over. The rest of the party needs to start doing it. When Warren’s the one who always hammers the bankers it can be dismissed as grandstanding. If ten or twenty senators start hammering the bankers it becomes a platform for meaningful reform.
 
jp_nyc said:
My point is that it becomes schtick when she’s the one doing it over and over. The rest of the party needs to start doing it. When Warren’s the one who always hammers the bankers it can be dismissed as grandstanding. If ten or twenty senators start hammering the bankers it becomes a platform for meaningful reform.
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Well I certainly agree the others should be joining in. I hope that the Clintons and Dem party are taking note that no one seems uber thrilled, and that she is just barely hanging on here. Seems like the party should listen to Bernie and Ms. Warren, etc., and those who like what they are doing. Until some more start getting up and standing up, those that are speaking out will continue to be marginalized, especially when compared with where the uber right has taken the GOP, and therefore the conversation. Bernie started moving the conversation back. Ms. Warren is on it as well. But more need to speak up. It feels like the party leaders think this should just be some sort of Clinton coronation, and it is not turning out to be.
 
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