Yep.
OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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Yep.
I told my father in law that if they fixed the public school system in this country we'd have a better chance of avoiding shitstorms like this. Sadly athletics and rote test taking are more important than Logic and Critical thinking courses and some contemporary civics lessons.
Kerouac
weird musical dildo
But if we don't have a good football team then how are we going to have a mulch fundraiser?
rhino
Kick Henry Jackassowski
mongooz
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if you had those in school, then people like Cruz and Lindsey Graham couldn't control the masses.
Kerouac
weird musical dildo
GAY CAKE OFF!
Not if your candidate wins by 1 vote
The third party can have an impact on the election this year. Bush won Florida by what, a little less that 600 votes? There were 6 third party candidates in Florida with more than 600 votes. If any one of those wouldn't have run, there is a very good chance Gore would have been president. The race this year will be close, unless Trump finally says something that even the die-hard supporters can't stomach or Hillary gets indited over the mail server.
The problem with voting for a third party candidate is that is usually leads to supporting the exact opposite of the values you are voting for, just as liberal idealists cost Gore the election by voting for Nader. In attempting to vote their principles, they actually voted against their principles.
Clinton will not be indicted because she hasn't broken any laws (at least with what information has publicly been released). At the most, she may have provably violated record retention requirements, but in the federal government, that's like spitting on the sidewalk.
Her email server did not conform to State Department policy, but violating policy isn't breaking criminal law. Half the politicians in Washington have at one time run their own email servers, or used third-party email services. There is no way this will come to anything. Congress (both sides) will not back any action on this because most of them are guilty of the same thing.
While some of the emails on her server were later classified, they were not at the time they were on her server. While it is true that she had a requirement to recognize that those emails *should* have been classified, it comes down to a judgement call. Just because someone else had the opinion they should be classified, that doesn't follow that Clinton should have thought the same thing. As Secretary of State, her opinion on what information was sensitive and what was not is going to be given a great deal of weight.
Even if they do make the classified information problem stick, it is still a fairly minor offense. David Petraeus got convicted of worse, and he only got a slap on the wrist.
Clinton being removed as the Democratic candidate is a common wet dream of both Republicans and Sanders supporters, but it aint going to happen.
rhino
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Chad
Slender Hobbit
I thought voting third party doesn't determine who wins?
I see what you are trying to say but IMO the only wasted vote is the one not cast. I wonder how many folks don't vote at all because people tell them their vote is a waste or won't matter?
Pine Apple Slim
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Yes I will have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary. Hate it tho.
But it really doesn't matter as AL will go all electoral votes for T anyway.
I may just stay home but it would be the first time I ever did.
But it really doesn't matter as AL will go all electoral votes for T anyway.
I may just stay home but it would be the first time I ever did.
But this year, it is true. If Trump wins and replaces at least two Justices with conservatives, here's what could very well happen:
Roe vs Wade - overturned.
Marriage equality - gone.
Any sort of gun control - gone.
Campaign finance reform - gone.
Banking regulation - gone.
EPA - gone.
FCC - gone.
Beyer160
Vagabond Of The Western World
Petraeus didn't have an entire political party dedicated to his downfall, though.
Ultimately she won't get indicted, for two main reasons. First, she's two connected and too powerful. Second, the rulers of the GOP understand that having Clinton as President would serve their aims better than having Trump.
I don't understand the constant harping on the electoral college. Eliminating it wouldn't fix anything. There's only been once in modern times where the electoral result differed from the popular vote, and the popular vote differed by only a half percent.
Runoff elections are the correct answer. This would almost instantly end the stranglehold the two parties have on this country. And for that very reason, it will never happen.
Runoff elections are the correct answer. This would almost instantly end the stranglehold the two parties have on this country. And for that very reason, it will never happen.
Yes, but he also didn't have an equally powerful party in his support.
Again, Clinton won't be indicted, but it is simply because she hasn't broken any laws that would warrant it.
rhino
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Roe vs Wade won't be overturned. The what if rape argument is too strong. It'd be political suicide. Even though there is much lip service given to the cause, staying in the bacon wrapped shrimp club is more important.
Marriage equality, might be, but even if it were done on a Federal level, it'd be left up to states. All the cool gay people would move to cool states anyway. Eventually even backwards South Eastern States would catch up when the house flipping shows didn't show up anymore.
Gun control won't change much. There are way too many guns sold with the threat of more control coming. As much as the NRA lobbies against it, their big backers want to sell more guns, and as things are business is good.
I'm probably not smart enough to talk about the rest of your list.
I should run for President!
sonik
Motor City Madman
On the SCOTUS thing, yes it's extremely important, and yes a Dem as prez during such a transition period is highly preferable.
However it's not like the prez gets to outright dictate who becomes a judge. And not all conservative leaning scotus judges are batshit crazy either.
However it's not like the prez gets to outright dictate who becomes a judge. And not all conservative leaning scotus judges are batshit crazy either.
Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
On this subject, now that Clinton has secured the nomination, will Garland be confirmed this year? Or is he still the sacrificial lamb?
sonik
Motor City Madman
It's a good question. Is Hillary a real supporter of Garland or just a party/prez supporter? Either way I imagine he's not going to get the gig, and will fade from view in the ensuing melee.
I never bothered reading too much about him because of the current clusterfuck, but he seemed ok
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
It's a good question. Is Hillary a real supporter of Garland or just a party/prez supporter? Either way I imagine he's not going to get the gig, and will fade from view in the ensuing melee.
I never bothered reading too much about him because of the current clusterfuck, but he seemed ok
Strategic.
Garland was the 'well, if the GOP will approve anyone, it will be him...' choice.
If he's rejected and Hilary wins, then the GOP will likely end up with a far more liberal choice.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
I think she should nominate Obama. That would be the best F you to folks blocking this one.
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