Jbird
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Conference championship games are nothing more than to bring in more $$$ to the conference. Do you really think, in the SEC this year, that Florida was the 2nd best team in the SEC?
Money maker, that's all they are...
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Chad
Slender Hobbit
They were the best in the Sec east. When the NCAA does shit like this and letting Bama play for the title in '12 it shows they really don't care about the regular season at all. It is part of the reason I don't follow college football that much. You can do everything right and take care of business but if the NCAA doesn't want you in the championship, you're not in it. I feel bad for those kids at Penn State. They beat Ohio State and won the conference but too bad. The selection committee wants a Meyer vs Saban championship so sorry you did everything right.
I have no dog in the fight. I went to Radford, we don't have a team. I also am still disgusted by the whole Sandusky thing and really don't like Penn State, but they beat Ohio and won the conference championship. That should be end of story, better luck next year Ohio.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
To me, it should be 8 game playoff, with a conference champ from each of the power conferences, then a couple spots for the media darlings. That way at least the conf. champs all get a chance to prove it on the field. I have discussed this elsewhere and I was really surprised how many people like the selection process instead. Saying that they want the "4 best teams" to play. But in most sports, you have to win your side of the ladder, or make it through the playoffs to compete. No one votes Selena into the final 4 of Wimbledon. I also heard a complaint that an 8 team playoff will make the regular season mean less. Why? Just switch a couple bowl games over to playoff games, rather than extend the season, and/or skip the conf. champ games and just go on record. In the Pac 12, not sure how they would handle the north and south thing and maybe a change would be needed there. But whatever. That to me could be handled. That way seems more fair than a star chamber committee deciding who the "best" are.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
I agree. I know you can make an argument all day long as to why Ohio State is better than Penn State, but Penn State beat them. Say whatever you want, when team A beats team B, team A is better in my mind or team B would have won. The way they do it now seems to make the regular season seem meaningless. Penn State beat Ohio State in the regular season, if the regular season meant something, it would be Penn State in the playoffs.
shoeless
Riffin'
Totally agree, and have a feeling we'll get there eventually. It'll take a few years though. How long did it take folks complaining about the ranking system and lack of a playoff before we got one?
As far as the @Chad 's question about why they have conference playoffs, I think there is still a pride factor in winning your conference, even if you don't make it to the CFP. In the old days, that was the goal, to win your conference and go to the bowl game that had the reserved spot for the conference champion. Nowadays it seems nobody is happy unless they win it all.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
Totally agree, and have a feeling we'll get there eventually. It'll take a few years though. How long did it take folks complaining about the ranking system and lack of a playoff before we got one?
As far as the @Chad 's question about why they have conference playoffs, I think there is still a pride factor in winning your conference, even if you don't make it to the CFP. In the old days, that was the goal, to win your conference and go to the bowl game that had the reserved spot for the conference champion. Nowadays it seems nobody is happy unless they win it all.
Hopefully they'll get it right at some point. If somehow Ohio State wins the whole thing, I have a hard time saying they are national champions when they aren't even Big 10 champions.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Frankly, at the risk of sounding "get off my lawnish", I kinda like the older days where the goal was, if you were a Husky fan, to get to and win the Rose Bowl. Nat'l champs was more of a popularity contest in my opinion, but the Rose Bowl mattered. Probably hard to go back to those days, now that a lot of newer fans are used to the national championship thing.Totally agree, and have a feeling we'll get there eventually. It'll take a few years though. How long did it take folks complaining about the ranking system and lack of a playoff before we got one?
As far as the @Chad 's question about why they have conference playoffs, I think there is still a pride factor in winning your conference, even if you don't make it to the CFP. In the old days, that was the goal, to win your conference and go to the bowl game that had the reserved spot for the conference champion. Nowadays it seems nobody is happy unless they win it all.
shoeless
Riffin'
I'm kind of with you on that. Having grown up in Texas, winning the Southwest Conference and getting the Cotton Bowl bid was what every program strived for, and it meant you were the best in the state (and Arkansas, lol). That used to be enough for most folks and I even used to have this poster in my room.
I think a lot of coaches would like to go back to those days too. Nowadays it seems like they get 3-5 years to take their team to the CFP (or in some cases national title) or else they're out.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
So this would be cool if it really happened. Probably won't or there is probably some rule against it. But still fun to think about.
http://footballscoop.com/news/pete-carroll-opens-door-washington-scrimmage-seahawks-prepare-alabama/
http://footballscoop.com/news/pete-carroll-opens-door-washington-scrimmage-seahawks-prepare-alabama/
Chad
Slender Hobbit
Anything that may help a team take down Bama is fine by me.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Here we go Huskies, here we go!!
LeftyTom
I am not just another pretty face.
Is this normal during a football game?
Just checking to see if Ohio State actually had a pair........
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Yeah, the D hung in and made 'Bama work a little. They gave up very few big plays, and held from strong opposing field position many times. Including holding to a field goal after a fumble. But that fumble and the pick 6 were game breakers, and the Husky offense could not get anything going after looking very strong with an early drive for their only score. Good young team, and it will be fun to see where they and Coach Peterson take it.
A buddy of mine told me a rumor that perhaps UW would hire Helfrich (formerly Oregon) as OC for the Huskies. That would be an interesting thing if it were true! The current OC seems to lack a little something.
And that after the play shenanigans above is hilarious. Probably would have been a personal foul if caught by the refs?! LOL!
shoeless
Riffin'
I'll be very surprised if Clemson can knock off 'bama. They were very close to being a 3 loss team (NC St., Fl St. and Va Tech). 'Bama's dominance will continue, most likely. It is impressive how they continue to be so strong year after year. I guess as long as you keep winning, the best high school players want to come play for you, and the cycle continues. I'm sure Saban has something to do with it too.