OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Ive always defended the US when people have held unwarranted grudges against them but this guy is really doing his best to live up to the dumb imperialist American stereotype.
 
I've been inspired by this reality TV buffoon's rise to the Presidency and as such am today announcing my candidacy for the 2020 elections. Like the President-elect, I have a Twitter account and am more than capable of shouting things at D-list celebrities. I, too, also lack self control and have no experience of government.

I have booked a month's worth of sessions at my local tanning salon.
 
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Wowza. I guess we need a military as big as the time we were fighting a unified and technologically advanced coalition of enemies. Wait? Aren't we just dropping JDAMs on Toyota Hilux pickups with 1960's Soviet AA guns mounted in the bed? China's new stealth plane runs on copies of Russian jet engines from the 70's as they can't make their own, and Russia's advanced military tech, although daunting, is just large enough to make a good showing at airshows and parades. I'm all for national defense, as sending kids into war with subpar shit is criminal, but really, we need to take a solid look at our military spending relative to the rest of the world.

Wasn't one of Trump's big savings plans to pull out of NATO and stop defending other countries? Seems like we need even less of an army after we unplug from defending the world.
 
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BlockInlay said:
I think trump also tweeted something to the effect that a brutal dictator is dead. Classy.
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It was actually a much longer statement where he called Castro a "brutal dictator who oppressed his own people for nearly six decades" and said he hoped Castro's death gave Cuban Americans "the hope of one day soon seeing a free Cuba." It goes on to say more of the same. Basically that the Cuban people have endured so much and that hopefully this can mare the beginning of change.

I honestly don't support him and I'm not glad he is going to be our President but honestly, to say anything other than what he said is insulting to Cuban people. I'm ok with the President taking credit in his statement for positive changes happening under his watch but I surely don't understand how we share common humanity with Cuba.

We have people in the streets of Austin chanting "what's better than 11 dead cops? 12 dead cops" but we are going to get our nose out of joint for Trump making a very truthful statement. We call a potential cabinet member a white supremacist because he owns a conservative news outlet that some "alt right" groups have said they like but we don't want anyone to say anything bad about Fidel Castro? We support an athletes right to kneel for the National Anthem because of oppression but don't have anything to say about him wearing a Castro t-shirt? Does he even understand what the word oppression means? People are fired from networks for saying something that could possibly be interpreted as negative toward a group or might hurt someone's feelings but we are ok with a man who killed, imprisoned, and oppressed anyone who disagreed with him. We are going to compare Trump to Hitler but Castro is ok?

I am not supporting Trump but rather the Cuban people. I can assure you they don't think the statement was classless.
 
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Johnny N. said:
It was actually a much longer statement where he called Castro a "brutal dictator who oppressed his own people for nearly six decades" and said he hoped Castro's death gave Cuban Americans "the hope of one day soon seeing a free Cuba." It goes on to say more of the same. Basically that the Cuban people have endured so much and that hopefully this can mare the beginning of change.

I honestly don't support him and I'm not glad he is going to be our President but honestly, to say anything other than what he said is insulting to Cuban people. I'm ok with the President taking credit in his statement for positive changes happening under his watch but I surely don't understand how we share common humanity with Cuba.

We have people in the streets of Austin chanting "what's better than 11 dead cops? 12 dead cops" but we are going to get our nose out of joint for Trump making a very truthful statement. We call a potential cabinet member a white supremacist because he owns a conservative news outlet that some "alt right" groups have said they like but we don't want anyone to say anything bad about Fidel Castro? We support an athletes right to kneel for the National Anthem because of oppression but don't have anything to say about him wearing a Castro t-shirt? Does he even understand what the word oppression means? People are fired from networks for saying something that could possibly be interpreted as negative toward a group or might hurt someone's feelings but we are ok with a man who killed, imprisoned, and oppressed anyone who disagreed with him. We are going to compare Trump to Hitler but Castro is ok?

I am not supporting Trump but rather the Cuban people. I can assure you they don't think the statement was classless.
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You seem to be assuming all the Cuban people are united in the view that Castro was an evil dictator, that is not the case.
 
I spoke with my Cuban colleague today. Her view was that Castro's death doesn't mean anything. She's glad he's gone, but it's not going to change anything for Cuba under Raul.
 
Johnny N. said:
It was actually a much longer statement where he called Castro a "brutal dictator who oppressed his own people for nearly six decades" and said he hoped Castro's death gave Cuban Americans "the hope of one day soon seeing a free Cuba." It goes on to say more of the same. Basically that the Cuban people have endured so much and that hopefully this can mare the beginning of change.

I honestly don't support him and I'm not glad he is going to be our President but honestly, to say anything other than what he said is insulting to Cuban people. I'm ok with the President taking credit in his statement for positive changes happening under his watch but I surely don't understand how we share common humanity with Cuba.

We have people in the streets of Austin chanting "what's better than 11 dead cops? 12 dead cops" but we are going to get our nose out of joint for Trump making a very truthful statement. We call a potential cabinet member a white supremacist because he owns a conservative news outlet that some "alt right" groups have said they like but we don't want anyone to say anything bad about Fidel Castro? We support an athletes right to kneel for the National Anthem because of oppression but don't have anything to say about him wearing a Castro t-shirt? Does he even understand what the word oppression means? People are fired from networks for saying something that could possibly be interpreted as negative toward a group or might hurt someone's feelings but we are ok with a man who killed, imprisoned, and oppressed anyone who disagreed with him. We are going to compare Trump to Hitler but Castro is ok?

I am not supporting Trump but rather the Cuban people. I can assure you they don't think the statement was classless.
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The criticism centers around foreign policy via twitter & not the content of his team's offical statement. The statement your referring to came two hours after his "Fidel Castro is dead!" tweet.


I get the inconsistencies in reactions to various events; that's the nature of the beast when you're exposed to many different opinions and beliefs on a given subject, especially the most polarizing reactions that get all the attention. Cherry picking reactions, thoughts, and beliefs & assigning them to this collective "we" is just a hodgepodge of strawmen and false equivalencies.
 
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You seem to be assuming all the Cuban people are united in the view that Castro was an evil dictator, that is not the case.
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If they are not of that opinion, they have never lived there or don't have family who have. I am married to a Cuban and my Cuban born family is bigger than my US born family these days and I'm in Southeast Florida so I have a fair amount of exposure to Cubans. I haven't heard of a single person who would have anything nicer to say than evil dictator. And the streets of Miami were full all day of people who celebrated the event. I don't know that I can agree with celebrating anyone's death but I can certainly understand why they would. And I can imagine there are Cubans who don't care one way or another but I can't imagine anyone thinking positively about him or his reign. And as much as we tend to villainize anyone who hurts someone else's feelings, I can't imagine why anyone would defend a guy like that. Not trying to pick a fight or saying anyone here supports Castro. Just funny that people hate Trump enough to dismiss the atrocities committed by Fidel.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
I spoke with my Cuban colleague today. Her view was that Castro's death doesn't mean anything. She's glad he's gone, but it's not going to change anything for Cuba under Raul.
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This is true as well. The natural thing to say is that it is going to change now but Raul has been running the shop for a long time now. I think the general consensus with those who have been affected by Castro is that there is some sense of relief, which is understandable.
 
Johnny N. said:
If they are not of that opinion, they have never lived there or don't have family who have. I am married to a Cuban and my Cuban born family is bigger than my US born family these days and I'm in Southeast Florida so I have a fair amount of exposure to Cubans.
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You have a fair amount of exposure to Cubans who fled the Castro regime (or are descended from them). Obviously that group is going to favor the anti-Castros.

There are plenty of Cubans in Cuba that are mourning him. I don't agree with them either, but there you are.

There is a similar situation in Venezuela now - the country's economy is virtually in ruins now, but plenty of Venezuelans still support the Chavez revolution.
All the Venezuelans I know (I'm married to one) hate the Chavistas but not all Venezuelans do.
 
Trump undermined himself by questioning the legitimacy of the election he won. It appears that he wanted to shut down a recount with his tweet. :facepalm:
If democrats worry the votes were miscounted, and Trump himself believes that millions of people voted fraudulently, then it’s clear we need a recount to restore faith in the outcome of the election. lol-049
You can't just make up this kind of stupidity, yet Trump still manages to do so every day.
 
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