OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Help!I'maRock! said:
Nope.
Click to expand...

I agree with you. If your state is already decided, vote third party. A third party really needs to get the federal funding. I wish the libertarian or Green Party would drop out so there was only one big third party so the third party votes wouldn't get split.

I voted Nader in 2000 because Bush had VA by a mile.
 
Chad said:
I agree with you. If your state is already decided, vote third party. A third party really needs to get the federal funding. I wish the libertarian or Green Party would drop out so there was only one big third party so the third party votes wouldn't get split.

I voted Nader in 2000 because Bush had VA by a mile.
Click to expand...

Why would Green and Liberterian join? They have virtually nothing in common apart from being third parties.
 
Flamencology said:
Why would Green and Liberterian join? They have virtually nothing in common apart from being third parties.
Click to expand...

I didn't say join. It would be nice to get all of the votes to one third party. If one would just drop out for this election, I bet the one left could get the votes with all of the hate directed at the 2 nominees.
 
Chad said:
I didn't say join. It would be nice to get all of the votes to one third party. If one would just drop out for this election, I bet the one left could get the votes with all of the hate directed at the 2 nominees.
Click to expand...

Ok, but if I'm inclined to vote Green, and then the Green Party disappeared, then why the hell would I suddenly vote for Libertarian over Dem?

Flipside, if I were ill-informed and wanted to vote Libertarian, and the Libertarian Party disappeared, then why the hell would I suddenly vote for the Green Party over the GOP?
 
Flamencology said:
Ok, but if I'm inclined to vote Green, and then the Green Party disappeared, then why the hell would I suddenly vote for Libertarian over Dem?

Flipside, if I were ill-informed and wanted to vote Libertarian, and the Libertarian Party disappeared, then why the hell would I suddenly vote for the Green Party over the GOP?
Click to expand...

When I voted for Nader, I knew he had no shot. I can't imagine anyone voting for a third party thinks their candidate has a snowballs chance in hell to win, they do it to protest the 2 party system. If there is only one third party they would get the vote. There probably are those who genuinely vote for those parties but if you are strongly behind a third party candidate, I don't see you voting for one of the majors if your candidate goes away.
 
Chad said:
When I voted for Nader, I knew he had no shot. I can't imagine anyone voting for a third party thinks their candidate has a snowballs chance in hell to win, they do it to protest the 2 party system. If there is only one third party they would get the vote. There probably are those who genuinely vote for those parties but if you are strongly behind a third party candidate, I don't see you voting for one of the majors if your candidate goes away.
Click to expand...

I think that you're wrong on this one.

I support a lot of the Green Party's platform. If it were an instant-runoff election, I'd easily support them over the GOP and the Libertarians. Depending on the candidate, and the candidate's ability to actually to get stuff legislated, they might even be my first choice.

But I'd love to see the Libertarian Party eviscerated. The Ron Pauls of the world are teenage intellects, just bright enough to present themselves as intellects to non-intellects. I find them dangerous.
 
I want to vote Green in the election. If Hillary is in a strong position in Illinois, I probably will. I won't give Libertarians the time of day.

I see control of the Supreme Court as the most important issue in this election. Giving Trump control would be a very, very bad idea.
 
Flamencology, you can tell me I'm wrong all you want, but I have voted 3rd party in every presidential election since I first voted...it's my way of voting for none of the above...voting for the lesser of 2 evils is, in my opinion, giving tacit approval to the process as it exists and is incredibly objectionable to me...
 
I definitely won’t vote green. If Green party votes flip a few swing states for Trump then we’re all fucked. People who think they’re too principled to vote for Clinton need to hold their nose, vote for her, and then direct their indignation into four years of volunteering for the Green party at the local level so it has candidates to move up and build a political machine with. But putting the world at risk of a Trump presidency that would hand global leadership to Xi Jinping just to make a point is simply depraved.
 
Flamencology said:
I think that you're wrong on this one.

I support a lot of the Green Party's platform. If it were an instant-runoff election, I'd easily support them over the GOP and the Libertarians. Depending on the candidate, and the candidate's ability to actually to get stuff legislated, they might even be my first choice.

But I'd love to see the Libertarian Party eviscerated. The Ron Pauls of the world are teenage intellects, just bright enough to present themselves as intellects to non-intellects. I find them dangerous.
Click to expand...

But it's not a instant runoff and it never will be.

There is something else you are over looking. If the green party candidate dropped out, the Dems who don't like Hillary could vote for the libertarian candidate to get them federal funding in the next election. If the libertarian party got the federal funding, think of who would lose, the GOP. The libertarian party wouldn't take votes from the Dems, they would end up taking the Tea Party folks.
 
PunkKitty said:
I want to vote Green in the election. If Hillary is in a strong position in Illinois, I probably will. I won't give Libertarians the time of day.

I see control of the Supreme Court as the most important issue in this election. Giving Trump control would be a very, very bad idea.
Click to expand...

I will be doing the same if she has a hold on VA. I'm not a big Hillary fan, but she has to win. I have to think once the election gets closer Trump will plummet.
 
jelloman said:
Flamencology, you can tell me I'm wrong all you want, but I have voted 3rd party in every presidential election since I first voted...it's my way of voting for none of the above...voting for the lesser of 2 evils is, in my opinion, giving tacit approval to the process as it exists and is incredibly objectionable to me...
Click to expand...

My way of doing that is by financially supporting left-wing causes and politicians on a local level.

With the current presidential election system, a "protest" vote is barely more effective than staying home. And, in the case of Bush v. Gore, it did serious damage.

Advocate for instant-runoff voting!
 
Chad said:
But it's not a instant runoff and it never will be.

There is something else you are over looking. If the green party candidate dropped out, the Dems who don't like Hillary could vote for the libertarian candidate to get them federal funding in the next election. If the libertarian party got the federal funding, think of who would lose, the GOP. The libertarian party wouldn't take votes from the Dems, they would end up taking the Tea Party folks.
Click to expand...

I do love the idea of a heavily fractured right. That has been the problem of the left for far too long, and I feel like we're finally starting to clue into that.

But no, there's no way in hell I'd support the Libertarians just to potentially split a vote four years down the road. I don't think that's a smart investment.
 
Flamencology said:
I do love the idea of a heavily fractured right. That has been the problem of the left for far too long, and I feel like we're finally starting to clue into that.

But no, there's no way in hell I'd support the Libertarians just to potentially split a vote four years down the road. I don't think that's a smart investment.
Click to expand...

If Hillary has run away with VA, they'll get my vote. I don't like them, and I have far more in common with the Green Party, but if the libertarians could get the funding, that with a Trump nomination, the GOP would officially be done.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top