OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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sonik said:
Paris had 2 mass shootings in 2015.
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I forgot about the first one. It is still kind of moot, because they were well planned out terrorist attacks, not some guy who got pissed at his co-workers or some crazy guy who feels the need to shoot a bunch of 6 year olds.
 
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rhino said:
Fuck you man, you can take my bazooka joe from my cold dead mouth... :)

It was pretty shitty. It was so hard and the flavor didn't last very long, lol. I do have fond memories of playing baseball as a kid and chewing bazooka joe. One of my friends dads always had it.

If somebody were to offer me some right now, I wouldn't turn it down.
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So I wasn't the only one ending up with 6 or 7 pieces in at a time? I think the main ingredient was sugar, so once that dissolved, there wasn't much left and your only option was to pop in another.
 
Chad said:
mass shootings are up big time and they use assault riffles in those.
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Here's the thing...

The "assault rifle", which is the most popular rifle in the US nowadays, is much maligned and not understood by most folks who are on the banned-wagon (pun intended).

Commercially available AR-15s do not have automatic mode or 3 round burst mode. The only thing that separates them from an underpowered semi-automatic hunting rifle is their magazine capacity.

Even then, my Glock 45 magazine holds 13 rounds, and takes all of about 1 second to change out magazines. Sure, you're not going to want to use a 45 handgun to pick off targets at a distance, but it'll do a hell of lot more damage at 25 yards or less than a .223 AR-15 will do.
 
Stephen Colbert has a few things to say to our illustrious senators, about gun control:

Hey! You guys think a Terrorists Watch List is when you put ‘Homeland’ on your Netflix queue!

Hey! You might as well ask the gun lobby to check for a hernia as long as they’ve got your balls in their hands!

Senate! You couldn’t pass a bill if it was coasted in Ex-Lax. But if you ever did pass a bill it would say ‘Be it resolved: No kissing and the NRA should just leave the money on the dresser’!

Senate! You accomplished so little that Kylie Jenner wants to now what the hell you do for a living!

Senate! you got more old white men lying around than a Life Alert ad!

You are so divided, you couldn’t come together if you had 30 hours and a reach-around from Sting!

You’re like a grandpa after an all starch dinner. You cannot get sh*t done!
 
Prages said:
Here's the thing...

The "assault rifle", which is the most popular rifle in the US nowadays, is much maligned and not understood by most folks who are on the banned-wagon (pun intended).

Commercially available AR-15s do not have automatic mode or 3 round burst mode. The only thing that separates them from an underpowered semi-automatic hunting rifle is their magazine capacity.

Even then, my Glock 45 magazine holds 13 rounds, and takes all of about 1 second to change out magazines. Sure, you're not going to want to use a 45 handgun to pick off targets at a distance, but it'll do a hell of lot more damage at 25 yards or less than a .223 AR-15 will do.
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This is true. I've got a Glock 17 (9mm 17 round mag), but you can get extended 30ish round mags and even these funky 100 round drum mags. Also an illegal mod is available to turn it full auto like the 18.

I've shot an AR on a few occasions. It's not some machine gun. AR-15 doesn't stand for assault rifle either.

It looks scary to some people, and then gun dorks go on and accessorize it into a swiss army knife :lol:
 
rhino said:
Fuck you man, you can take my bazooka joe from my cold dead mouth... :)

It was pretty shitty. It was so hard and the flavor didn't last very long, lol. I do have fond memories of playing baseball as a kid and chewing bazooka joe. One of my friends dads always had it.

If somebody were to offer me some right now, I wouldn't turn it down.
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Nope, me neither. But I would be spitting it out in about 4 minutes.
 
rhino said:
That would be a good challenge. Who can chew a piece of bazooka joe the longest?
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I remember in college being at a buddy's parent's house and seeing who could swill most slowly the really crappy Monarch bourbon we got from the cabinet. Man, I gladly "lost" that contest.

Also, I think the "winner" of that Bazooka Joe contest would end up needing TMJ treatment.
 
I have a .22 semi-automatic Winchester rifle I've had since I was a kid. Since it's semi-automatic, would it be considered an assault rifle by those in congress?
 
shoeless said:
I have a .22 semi-automatic Winchester rifle I've had since I was a kid. Since it's semi-automatic, would it be considered an assault rifle by those in congress?
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If you paint it black and put a rail on it, yes; it's scary tactical.


While I do own firearms and shoot them frequently; I don't take the number of deaths that occur due to violence committed with a firearm lightly. I think it's absurd the amount of political circlejerking that goes on over gun control when we don't utilize or fully enforce the laws currently on the books or even staff/fund NICS adequately, neither of which any lobbying group could stop or would oppose.
 
Chad said:
Were Vietnam and Afghanistan US citizens trying to overthrow the government? You do know the Soviet Union backed the North Vietnamese and provided them with military gear right? They weren't just a band of yahoos with a few guns. They had MiGs from the USSR and used Soviet radar to track US targets.
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The United States had near-total air superiority for the duration of the Vietnam conflict.

Their motive is irrelevant- in each case indigenous, ad hoc forces defeated the most powerful armies of their time. There's no reason to think a large scale indigenous revolt in the US couldn't succeed in a similar way. I would hate to be a US Army division commander tasked with "pacifying" the Smoky mountains or city of Chicago in open revolt.

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this out to see how well a well regulated militia has done against the government.

://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/04/a-look-at-10-other-government-stand-offs-like-the-one-in-oregon-most-of-which-ended-peacefully/
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You can call those morons a lot of things, but "well regulated" they were not.
 
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And, while Bazooka Joe isn't the epitome of good gum chewing, it isn't as shitty as Fruit Stripe and it also has a shitty comic with a bad joke. Would I chew a pice of Bazooka Joe if it were offered to me right now? Probably.

Fruit Stripe? No way.
 
Beyer160 said:
The United States had near-total air superiority for the duration of the Vietnam conflict.

Their motive is irrelevant- in each case indigenous, ad hoc forces defeated the most powerful armies of their time. There's no reason to think a large scale indigenous revolt in the US couldn't succeed in a similar way. I would hate to be a US Army division commander tasked with "pacifying" the Smokey mountains or city of Chicago in open revolt.



You can call those morons a lot of things, but "well regulated" they were not.
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I think most powerful weapon the US Army has is the individual soldiers that fill the ranks. I'd like to think that soldiers would not go along with the government and would side with citizens, but that is not always the case. The only evidence I have is speaking with folks from the National Guard that were called into New Orleans after Katrina. There are stories that confirm and deny what I would like to think.
 
If you really believe that a full-scale revolution or civil war may be necessary at some point, then a new constitution is definitely worth a shot, no? Unless it's a given that millions of domestic deaths simply can't be avoided. I mean, the world is overpopulated...
 
Chad said:
So France has one mass shooting in the history of their country and they are on par with the US?

Your graph ends in 2010. I don't have recent stats, but I do know mass shootings are up big time and they use assault riffles in those.

I'm not for getting rid of guns completely (my avatar is me hold my 22 when I was a kid) it just makes no sense that it is easier to buy a gun than get a driver's license.
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Re: France - they had two mass shootings recently. The point is, even in heavily disarmed France, terrorists were able to obtain modern weapons and use them. In US cities with the strictest gun control, there is still a very high rate of crimes committed with guns and shootings (see Chicago).

The definition of a mass shooting recently changed from people killed to people shot. I'll still agree that one person shot is too many, but the changing of definition was done to support the "gun epidemic" story.
 
Prages said:
Here's the thing...

The "assault rifle", which is the most popular rifle in the US nowadays, is much maligned and not understood by most folks who are on the banned-wagon (pun intended).

Commercially available AR-15s do not have automatic mode or 3 round burst mode. The only thing that separates them from an underpowered semi-automatic hunting rifle is their magazine capacity.

Even then, my Glock 45 magazine holds 13 rounds, and takes all of about 1 second to change out magazines. Sure, you're not going to want to use a 45 handgun to pick off targets at a distance, but it'll do a hell of lot more damage at 25 yards or less than a .223 AR-15 will do.
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Very good points about what an AR is and isn't.

The other statistic nobody likes to talk about is that rifles in general are used in a very small percentage of homicides. This nytimes article discusses that fact: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html?_r=0
 
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