NFL 2017-18 Thread

And I'm a huge Pats fan, but actually find Belichick to be ... not my kind of guy, I guess.

I'm just saying: it's exactly the same since Richard Seymour was traded, Ty Law signed with the Chiefs .... I don't see any "unraveling" at all. Oddly, as a Pats fan, I'm so tired of the current state of affairs that I am actually sad that we don't have a Josh M / Jimmy G era going, but that's probably just my Boston Sports masochism.

Belichick's genius as a GM is anticipating market drops for players. I can't recall a single player for whom the Pats overpaid, other than Revis, which was an in-season signing where they more or less rolled a bonus in to the salary.
 
frunobulax said:
he may have been inconsistent, but he still could have better than the what was on the field. but we'll never know. the decision had been made.
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That's true. "Could have been" is simply not a hanging offense for Bellichick though. There could even be an element of refusing to allow him a chance on the field if he was percieved to have been halfassing during the week. BB plays the long game, once again, the clear message for everyone to stay on script may have theoretically hurt him, like it almost certainly did when he benched Welker for being hilarious, but this mindset gives them a bite at the apple every year. That's why they have five wins. Hell, if Amendola could hit an undefended receiver, or if Brady had ever eaten a strawberry and could jump higher than 3/4", they'd have six now.

frunobulax said:
remember, he was the undrafted rookie who sussed out the Seahawks pass play and won them a Super Bowl.
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Technically, he was personally coached on how to recognize and cover that exact play by BB. He certainly executed the hell out of it.
 
I'm not as unhappy with BB benching Butler as I was with the lack of depth. But you can't get around how much injuries cost the Pats this past year. Them making the SB was amazing in and of itself.

As far as players not wanting to play for BB, it's worth noting how many players have returned to the Pats when they had plenty of choices (Chung, Martellus Bennett) or have friends / siblings on the team. Jason McCourty will be joining brother Devin this year, and I think Adrian Clayborn had plenty of places he could choose to play.
 
frunobulax said:
he may have been inconsistent, but he still could have better than the what was on the field. but we'll never know. the decision had been made.

remember, he was the undrafted rookie who sussed out the Seahawks pass play and won them a Super Bowl.
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Bastard.

Well, the play call was dumb. Fair and square and all that.
 
ermghoti said:
Eliminating going-to-the-ground means adding dozens of fumbles. Can't wait for that mess.
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How is that? I can't think of a single "going to the ground call" where the player totally lost the ball, the ball just shifts as they hit the ground. I would think if the ball completely pops out in those situations, its an incomplete pass.
 
Chad said:
I would think if the ball completely pops out in those situations, its an incomplete pass.
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That's not stated in the article. The fact that they separate slight movement and going to the ground as separate articles implies the contrary. Why would there be a difference? If a receiver smothers a bobbled ball with his body, it's just as out of control as if it bounced away from him. The absence of these extremely gray areas is the reason for the current rule.
 
ermghoti said:
That's not stated in the article. The fact that they separate slight movement and going to the ground as separate articles implies the contrary. Why would there be a difference? If a receiver smothers a bobbled ball with his body, it's just as out of control as if it bounced away from him. The absence of these extremely gray areas is the reason for the current rule.
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And the article says the competition committee is looking to finalize the proposal before the meeting next week. So the rule hasn’t been written yet and it isn’t adopted yet.
 
Chad said:
And the article says the competition committee is looking to finalize the proposal before the meeting next week. So the rule hasn’t been written yet and it isn’t adopted yet.
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True, it remains to be seen what they come up with. I don't see any possibility of a concrete definition of an allowable bobble that will be clearer than the current rule.
 
I think the goal of eliminating errors is not feasible; no matter what rule, no matter what 'system for review,' there can and therefore will always be mistakes.

Given the sports I watch, I think the NFL does a pretty good job officiating games.
 
they've been trying to define a catch for years, not sure they'll get it any better this time.

fwiw, a catch should be made with the hands, not the helmet. Fucking David Tyree . :mad:
 
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