Mark's Music School Diary.
- Thread starter Mark Wein
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No, but what I'm doing with the solid body and the effects definitely takes it out of the 1946-1970 time frame of most collegiate jazz education. I've brought it all the way into the 1980's
jelloman
Couch'd Tater...
You're a rebel, Wein...No, but what I'm doing with the solid body and the effects definitely takes it out of the 1946-1970 time frame of most collegiate jazz education. I've brought it all the way into the 1980's
I guess I did ok on my Jazz History listening test:
For the first test, the average score for my classmates was somewhere around 55%.
For this test, there were 52 songs that I needed to know well enough that I could identify any of them from wherever in the recording he started the clip. Unlike my normal music history class where all of the music is started at the beginning, this is a true "needle drop" test and the music ranged from Duke Ellington to Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor to Weather Report and Miles Davis. check out the play list: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy5ac9G6yb3CQRlQ17hPAuhYKA7LoIHlL
I'm actualy doing very well in both history classes but I have term papers in both that I really don't know where to start with,
For the first test, the average score for my classmates was somewhere around 55%.
For this test, there were 52 songs that I needed to know well enough that I could identify any of them from wherever in the recording he started the clip. Unlike my normal music history class where all of the music is started at the beginning, this is a true "needle drop" test and the music ranged from Duke Ellington to Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor to Weather Report and Miles Davis. check out the play list: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy5ac9G6yb3CQRlQ17hPAuhYKA7LoIHlL
I'm actualy doing very well in both history classes but I have term papers in both that I really don't know where to start with,
I Don't have a huge amount to report. Turning in a rough draft for my Music History 351c paper on Steve Reich today. Really behing on a paper for Jazz History. Biology is boring. 20th Century Techniques (which is my current theory class) looks like this:
Yay 12 tone analysis.
Music I should know by the end of the semester for performance:
Yay 12 tone analysis.
Music I should know by the end of the semester for performance:
LeftyTom
I am not just another pretty face.
Steely Dan for the Chamber Orchestra?
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
I'm curious what the application is here. Is there something deeper they are working towards or is there a practical reason you would need to be able to do this?
It’s about understanding how mid 20th century modernist composers wrote music without the rules of tonality that we are so used to. I’ll most likely never us this stuff professionally but understanding the various processes that composers explored as they pushed the limits of western art music. It definitely helps give what I do not only some perspective but makes me think differently about the theoretical constructs that I actually do use.
Utimately its good to be educated, even if it is not directly and practically useful.
“Chamber Jazz Orchestra” which is the smaller of the two jazz big bands at the school. This is a recording from our directors 2006 album, and this song was actually nominate for a Grammy award that year:Steely Dan for the Chamber Orchestra?
LeftyTom
I am not just another pretty face.
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
How does that relate to identifying 50 song at any point at random? Are you listening for what you know about composers styles in order to identify a piece of music?
rickenvox
Animal Psychic
Some of those musician/composers are so distinct, they can be immediately identified anywhere in the song. I'm fairly confident someone could drop the needle on any Cecil Taylor song and I could identify him immediately. Same with Coltrane although there have been a few good imitators of his style on the tenor. Same with Miles and Ornette. Although I own almost the entire catalog for each of those four artists. I wouldn't be so confident with Ellington, other than his most well known songs.
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Those are different classes. The listening tests are in my history classes. This class is essentially a music theory class, as it relates to the complete disintegration of tonal harmony in the 20th century.
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
I'm sorry. All of my questions were relating to the 5o songs test.
The reality is that most of the time there are elements of each recording that makes it pretty easy to figure out who you are listening to. On the last listening test even the avante garde stuff like the Albert Adler and Ornette Colman stuff with similar instrumentation was not too difficult to identify mid recording. I also have the benefit of actually knowing more about jazz and its history than most of my classmates so some things were really easy for me because I already owned the albums or had performed the music.
Ultimately the listening tests are about making sure that the students actually listen to the music they are supposed to be studying. If you don’t spend the time actually listening to the stuff you’ll never understand it. And 19 year old college students are hugely lazy about this shit.
reverend1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
So the music school equivalent of a book report.