Flamencology
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mikesr1963 said:
Just a note about why I will no longer be posting my lessons on Harmony Central
- Thread starter Mark Wein
- Start date
it is, but thats how these things go, I guess...
I saw that earlier. :rolleyes:
goodusername
Perma Banned
Some childish idiot has taken advantage of the slow traffic on HC2.0 and bumped a handful of Mark's lesson posts to the front page. 
Acadiafall
Kiss Me Hardy
Write to the big bossman and explain your case. Whats the point in having a lesson forum if you cant post there?
I know you have advertisements on your website but ive yet to see a website that doesnt.
Failing that i will run naked into HC HQ and detonate my underpants bomb.
I know you have advertisements on your website but ive yet to see a website that doesnt.
Failing that i will run naked into HC HQ and detonate my underpants bomb.
davearonow
Cl*** Clown
Guys, Im pretty new to this site and I really like it here, but I have been a pretty big fan of HC for years until the recent catasrophy they just inflictede on everyone.
I would like to give y'all some unbiased simple reporting based on what I have seen there over the years, by7 the way, I am only speaking for the Electric guitar forum as that is mostly where I post.
I DO NOT hardly ever see people with busnesses or other sites directly making threads to "hey come check out my site" for whatever reason the site may be for. It happens, but rarely, and the people that do it, I may have seen them do it once, maybe twice in all the time I have been there. There ARE dudes that come in and post their stuff who are obviously trying to bring traffic to their businesses, some have music based weebsites like this one, others may be luthiers trying to sell theior guitars, but the ones that I have seen that get away with it, ALL of them are very subtle about it and at least make some kind of attrempt to disguise their spoam post as something other than spam. They may come in and say, "Hey check out this song I wrote" then you open the thread, they tell you about the song, and then they say" by the way, you can hear more at my site" or same thing with luthiers, "hey check out this new guitar I built, or listen to this song, by the way it is played on my new guitar and you can see these things here at my site"
Now I LIKE Mark, and I wouldnt consider what he brings to HC spam in any way, but based on the history of things that I have seen there, the way the stuff is presented, can easily be misunderstood as spam by alot of the posters over there. In fact, when I see Marks threads pop up over there, I always wondered if he had some special arrangement with HCEG, the mods over there where they let him continue to do this when I have seen them yank other somilar type things in the past.
My point here is, I thing what Mark brings to HC is HUGELY beneficial to the site and is the opposite of spam, but that is because I know what it is about. Aloyt of other people there dont care what the reason is, or rthe content of the stuff he is posting is, they just see it as "Hey, come over to MY site andhelp me make money". I am just the messenger,. I know how people think over there.
But I do HAVER to tell yall this in fairness, that the ones I see doing this on a regular basis over there are all pretty much very subtle about the way they go about it, and they at the very least make some kind of silly attempt to disgyuise what others may see as spam by feigning a regular post. It seems that when this happens, even though everyone still sees it for what it is, it is generally accepted by the populaus over there and people dont seem to concern themselves with it much if at all. It has always sort of been an unwritten rule for as long as I have been there.
Now, I am not say ing I agree with any of the system, and I think what M<ark brings is very valuable, Im just trying to lert yall know that I DONT see them singling Mark out, it is just that his posts over there directing people to this site, are written too directly and are consistant with the ones that get yanked. Im telling you, if you learn the system, change the wording in the thread titles a little bit, at least make an attempt to appease all the spam alarm activists over there, yo7u will never have a problem. The ones that are successful at directing traffic to their sites have all figured this out. everyone knowss why they are there, and nobody cares, and most people are happy they are there and believe what they vring to the site is valuable.
Im just the messenger. Dont shoot me. Im just telling y'all how it has worked over there for everyone else that does it successfully.
I would like to give y'all some unbiased simple reporting based on what I have seen there over the years, by7 the way, I am only speaking for the Electric guitar forum as that is mostly where I post.
I DO NOT hardly ever see people with busnesses or other sites directly making threads to "hey come check out my site" for whatever reason the site may be for. It happens, but rarely, and the people that do it, I may have seen them do it once, maybe twice in all the time I have been there. There ARE dudes that come in and post their stuff who are obviously trying to bring traffic to their businesses, some have music based weebsites like this one, others may be luthiers trying to sell theior guitars, but the ones that I have seen that get away with it, ALL of them are very subtle about it and at least make some kind of attrempt to disguise their spoam post as something other than spam. They may come in and say, "Hey check out this song I wrote" then you open the thread, they tell you about the song, and then they say" by the way, you can hear more at my site" or same thing with luthiers, "hey check out this new guitar I built, or listen to this song, by the way it is played on my new guitar and you can see these things here at my site"
Now I LIKE Mark, and I wouldnt consider what he brings to HC spam in any way, but based on the history of things that I have seen there, the way the stuff is presented, can easily be misunderstood as spam by alot of the posters over there. In fact, when I see Marks threads pop up over there, I always wondered if he had some special arrangement with HCEG, the mods over there where they let him continue to do this when I have seen them yank other somilar type things in the past.
My point here is, I thing what Mark brings to HC is HUGELY beneficial to the site and is the opposite of spam, but that is because I know what it is about. Aloyt of other people there dont care what the reason is, or rthe content of the stuff he is posting is, they just see it as "Hey, come over to MY site andhelp me make money". I am just the messenger,. I know how people think over there.
But I do HAVER to tell yall this in fairness, that the ones I see doing this on a regular basis over there are all pretty much very subtle about the way they go about it, and they at the very least make some kind of silly attempt to disgyuise what others may see as spam by feigning a regular post. It seems that when this happens, even though everyone still sees it for what it is, it is generally accepted by the populaus over there and people dont seem to concern themselves with it much if at all. It has always sort of been an unwritten rule for as long as I have been there.
Now, I am not say ing I agree with any of the system, and I think what M<ark brings is very valuable, Im just trying to lert yall know that I DONT see them singling Mark out, it is just that his posts over there directing people to this site, are written too directly and are consistant with the ones that get yanked. Im telling you, if you learn the system, change the wording in the thread titles a little bit, at least make an attempt to appease all the spam alarm activists over there, yo7u will never have a problem. The ones that are successful at directing traffic to their sites have all figured this out. everyone knowss why they are there, and nobody cares, and most people are happy they are there and believe what they vring to the site is valuable.
Im just the messenger. Dont shoot me. Im just telling y'all how it has worked over there for everyone else that does it successfully.
aliensporebomb
Fretted instrument fan
Bill Ruppert's effectology videos are a bit different - he does post them created with EH effects but he says all along to use whatever you've got to make those sounds so you can learn to make the most of the devices you have.
Prior to his EH endorsement he was a very prominent user of the Roland VG-99 basically making that box do things the manufacturer didn't know it could.
Bill doesn't personally make money from those videos - I believe EH just gave him a deal on the pedals if I'm not mistaken.
Now there's me to consider. I have a link at the bottom of every message that I post that indicates my music is on iTunes. Someday I could concievably make
some money by people clicking there and searching my music. Oh no! I could make MONEY that WOULDN'T go to Harmony Central. Think of the Children!
I definetely believe this is from the "wah, you betrayed harmony central when they were down" contingent (that I never understood myself, if you make a foolish
decision and implement a solution that isn't one, you will reap what you sow - there's no point in defending a bad idea - the people spoke IMO).
There's not much you can do.
It's really pathetic too, those dolts will move on when they don't have an audience and the place will be an empty box before long.
That's the other thing - the people there are definetely NOT about playing guitar or music. It's a nice social place to hang out. But here's a secret: I like to play
and the whiny "let's play hipster music that sucks" contingent is bo-ring after a while. Why don't you play some real music? Heck some of those guys don't even
play guitar - they may be "guitar owners" but it's questionable if they ever play regularly or ever played a gig.
Grumpy this morning. Gotta get some breakfast.
Prior to his EH endorsement he was a very prominent user of the Roland VG-99 basically making that box do things the manufacturer didn't know it could.
Bill doesn't personally make money from those videos - I believe EH just gave him a deal on the pedals if I'm not mistaken.
Now there's me to consider. I have a link at the bottom of every message that I post that indicates my music is on iTunes. Someday I could concievably make
some money by people clicking there and searching my music. Oh no! I could make MONEY that WOULDN'T go to Harmony Central. Think of the Children!
I definetely believe this is from the "wah, you betrayed harmony central when they were down" contingent (that I never understood myself, if you make a foolish
decision and implement a solution that isn't one, you will reap what you sow - there's no point in defending a bad idea - the people spoke IMO).
There's not much you can do.
It's really pathetic too, those dolts will move on when they don't have an audience and the place will be an empty box before long.
That's the other thing - the people there are definetely NOT about playing guitar or music. It's a nice social place to hang out. But here's a secret: I like to play
and the whiny "let's play hipster music that sucks" contingent is bo-ring after a while. Why don't you play some real music? Heck some of those guys don't even
play guitar - they may be "guitar owners" but it's questionable if they ever play regularly or ever played a gig.
Grumpy this morning. Gotta get some breakfast.
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Sad Navigator
Banned
Thanks for the strawman/assumptions/namecalling/whathaveyou. It's cute that you have to drag this kind of smug, condescending "flog v. shred" into a mostly-unrelated discussion of what is likely a business decision on the part of HCGJ.
I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but this is the fun getalong forum for fun bros who love playing so much that they talk about lunch and running all the time.
tamoore
G33K
tamoore
G33K
Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
Chihlidog
Kick Henry Jackassowski
It's shit like this that I go to GJ to chuckle at but dont want to see here. I knew it was coming but am still really disappointed to see it.
tamoore
G33K
Chihlidog
Kick Henry Jackassowski
It's best to ignore/make light of, and move on Chihli.....
I can do that no problem of course and it isnt like I'm gonna let this get me all rattled but the making light of stuff like this is really the GJ attitude.
Anyway, I'm thinking pizza for lunch today.
Sad Navigator
Banned
Chihlidog
Kick Henry Jackassowski
How do I use a mode?
first, you need some pie.
It's arcane, secret, Masonic Brotherhood, "if I tell you, I'll have to kill you" stuff.
However, essentially, Howie is right.