I have bought our tickets for Batman V Superman

They seem to have a competition going on to piss on the most childhood heroes. :facepalm:

Batman was good, Wonder Woman was good.... But Zach Snyder does NOT get Superman. Dark, death, murder, explosion, anger, death. :mad:
 
And it was like "we need to catch up with Marvel, so let's jam 10 different comic stories into one movie. Story line? Fuck that... We need more explosions and carnage. Fuckin' cool!!" :facepalm:
 
Chad said:
I think the if take away from this and any comic movie, is you can't please everyone. If you change too much comic fans hate it and if you don't change enough regular folks won't be able to follow.
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Flamencology said:
Except that there have been plenty of examples in recent years that disprove that thesis.
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Marvel keeps disproving this over and over.

I thought Arrow was making Chad's post true for a while, but what made me actually start watching it was that the long play that was actually obvious from the beginning was starting to play out.

Flash hit the ground fucking running at full speed and smashed it out of the park. It is the perfect representation of a comic book being turned into something a screen of any size with real people.

DC's issue is that they keep their shit too separated. There's like three different animated universes (the proper DCAU started by Bruce Timm, the Jackie Chan Adventures version of Batman, and the goofy kiddy stuff), the movie universe that keeps getting rebooted (Thomas and Martha Wayne must've died more times than Kenny from South Park by now), and the TV universe which is pretty damn cohesive.

I don't mind when details are changed in ways that make sense... But then there's WHAT THE FUCK WAS LEX LUTHOR ABOUT????????? It was as if he was The Riddler with all the nervous ticks of Heath Ledger's Joker and some unexplained maniacal plan backed by a hatred that didn't make sense. That's not Lex Luthor. Lex Luthor is calculating, manipulative, and domineering. This Lex Luthor would never be able to run for president, even with the clusterfuck we call politics today.
 
review from my brother: Started ok then got long and boring as shit.

think ill borrow it from the internet :-o
 
GilmourD said:
I don't mind when details are changed in ways that make sense... But then there's WHAT THE FUCK WAS LEX LUTHOR ABOUT????????? It was as if he was The Riddler with all the nervous ticks of Heath Ledger's Joker and some unexplained maniacal plan backed by a hatred that didn't make sense. That's not Lex Luthor. Lex Luthor is calculating, manipulative, and domineering. This Lex Luthor would never be able to run for president, even with the clusterfuck we call politics today.
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To be fair, this portrayal was absolutely in keeping with the character's history, though not with its past couple of decades.
 
Flamencology said:
To be fair, this portrayal was absolutely in keeping with the character's history, though not with its past couple of decades.
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There were reasons for his anger in the past. Superman (early on) saved Lex from a chem lab accident. However, that's where he lost his hair, and he blamed Superman.

Here he looked like Alexander Luthor from the alternate Earth but acted very unlike any Luthor I've seen past or present.

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I read a (favorable) review of the movie where they talked about Lex's perspective.... how he was the most powerful person in Metropolis until Superman and Zod showed up.... and they then wrapped their imagination into his backstory.

My beef is that a GOOD DIRECTOR would have SHOWN US that. Show us Lex's perspective of Superman and then Batman's perspective. Lex may as well have had a mustache that he was twirling... maybe that's why he was so twitchy. He didn't have a mustache to twirl while he was chewing on scenery.

The whole thing was just so rushed and ham handed. I'm trying to forget about it so I can just look forward to Civil War when it comes out in a month.
 
baimun said:
I read a (favorable) review of the movie where they talked about Lex's perspective.... how he was the most powerful person in Metropolis until Superman and Zod showed up.... and they then wrapped their imagination into his backstory.

My beef is that a GOOD DIRECTOR would have SHOWN US that. Show us Lex's perspective of Superman and then Batman's perspective. Lex may as well have had a mustache that he was twirling... maybe that's why he was so twitchy. He didn't have a mustache to twirl while he was chewing on scenery.

The whole thing was just so rushed and ham handed. I'm trying to forget about it so I can just look forward to Civil War when it comes out in a month.
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You're giving the director too much credit here. That would have been the job of the screenwriter(s).

Of course, in this instance, it's probably the same.
 
Flamencology said:
You're giving the director too much credit here. That would have been the job of the screenwriter(s).

Of course, in this instance, it's probably the same.
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There may have been some layers of subtlety in the original script but it's difficult to see what remained after Snyder's big black paintbrush.
 
baimun said:
There may have been some layers of subtlety in the original script but it's difficult to see what remained after Snyder's big black paintbrush.
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Yeah, I'm a hater as well.

If I had to give him a Superman story, it'd be Red Son.

But he doesn't understand the Superman that people actually love. As per Grant Morrison, John Byrne, Jeph Loeb, etc.
 
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