Gay musicians I admire

actually in all seriousness, I think my favorite gay musicians (where their being gay wasn't just incidental, it was central to their music, which was explicitly about being gay; they were generally lumped in with "queercore" as a genre) was this Oly hardcore band when I was in college called Behead The Prophet No Lord Shall Live. They were absolutely incredible live.
 
rickenvox said:
let it go. you're wearing your point on your sleeve and repeating it like a homeless person.

And at this point is looks like you're just trying to be provocative and create a problem that isn't there.
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The point in which you posted this thread it became provocative because you wanted it to be. In my judgement you are trying to use this as a forum to call out those who do not see their world the same way you do and this allows you to attempt to shame them in a misguided effort to show your moral authority.

If you wanted to be the all-inclusive person you think you are you would have merely titled the thread as: "Musicians I Admire" and then posted your preference, be they gay or straight.

When I start categorizing my musicians, and people, into different groups, then I become a person who needs to categorize people-label them.

You have labeled people in your attempt to show just how much more Progressive you are than others.

Nicely done!
 
2112 said:
The point in which you posted this thread it became provocative because you wanted it to be. In my judgement you are trying to use this as a forum to call out those who do not see their world the same way you do and this allows you to attempt to shame them in a misguided effort to show your moral authority.

If you wanted to be the all-inclusive person you think you are you would have merely titled the thread as: "Musicians I Admire" and then posted your preference, be they gay or straight.

When I start categorizing my musicians, and people, into different groups, then I become a person who needs to categorize people-label them.

You have labeled people in your attempt to show just how much more Progressive you are than others.

Nicely done!
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Wow, A for effort. What is a "people-label"? Progressive doesn't need to be capitalized in the middle of a sentence. I'm calling out people because they don't see their world the same way I see their world? I don't see their world or my world. There is just the world. Show my moral authority? What a strange phrase. What exactly do you think I would do with moral authority if I had it to wield? Just shame people? Oh no, if I had moral authority why I would . . . would . . . comment on people's threads about their motives for making those threads, just making wild-ass (proper hyphenated compound noun) guesses about those motives. And then I would let them know how I would have created the thread similarly, but title it differently with a touch of moral superiority. And then I would close with a sarcastic byeline. That's what I would do by golly.

But I have news for you, the next thread I create will not be called "Musicians I Admire" in a misguided attempt to show moral superiority over my current thread. No if I'm going to remove one word it will be named "Gay I Admire" or "Gay musicians admire." The first would be a thread about the etymology of the word 'gay' from it's use in the twenties meaning happy, to it's current connotation of same sex sexual orientation and how I admire its evolution. The second would be a thread on things in general that gay musicians admire, like waterfalls, clean studios, yoga classes, etc.

You have responded to a ridiculous thread to show just how many things fly over your head undetected.

Thank you for sharing! Namaste.
 
yabba said:
actually in all seriousness, I think my favorite gay musicians (where their being gay wasn't just incidental, it was central to their music, which was explicitly about being gay; they were generally lumped in with "queercore" as a genre) was this Oly hardcore band when I was in college called Behead The Prophet No Lord Shall Live. They were absolutely incredible live.
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Yabba, that was very interesting music.
 
Theodore said:


Yabba, that was very interesting music.
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The whole thread was redeemed by this clip.

Although it does remind me of the original release of the live King Crimson USA album and Asbury Park with the brilliant interplay between Robert Fripp and John Wetton. Then years later Fripp remasters the whole thing and turns David Cross' violin way up in the mix and ruined the song.
 
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Theodore said:


Yabba, that was very interesting music.
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they had a very brief series of reunion shows several years back but Michael (the violinist) had died and it didn't have quite the same manic-ness without him.

The only other live clip I could find was post-Michael, but the mix captures a bit better what I remember the sonic experience being like in person at their shows (the violin was generally very low in the mix)
 
rickenvox said:
Wow, A for effort. What is a "people-label"? Progressive doesn't need to be capitalized in the middle of a sentence. I'm calling out people because they don't see their world the same way I see their world? I don't see their world or my world. There is just the world. Show my moral authority? What a strange phrase. What exactly do you think I would do with moral authority if I had it to wield? Just shame people? Oh no, if I had moral authority why I would . . . would . . . comment on people's threads about their motives for making those threads, just making wild-ass (proper hyphenated compound noun) guesses about those motives. And then I would let them know how I would have created the thread similarly, but title it differently with a touch of moral superiority. And then I would close with a sarcastic byeline. That's what I would do by golly.

But I have news for you, the next thread I create will not be called "Musicians I Admire" in a misguided attempt to show moral superiority over my current thread. No if I'm going to remove one word it will be named "Gay I Admire" or "Gay musicians admire." The first would be a thread about the etymology of the word 'gay' from it's use in the twenties meaning happy, to it's current connotation of same sex sexual orientation and how I admire its evolution. The second would be a thread on things in general that gay musicians admire, like waterfalls, clean studios, yoga classes, etc.

You have responded to a ridiculous thread to show just how many things fly over your head undetected.

Thank you for sharing! Namaste.
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And yet another attempt at showing just how superior you are when you compare yourself to others. There are different worlds (or world views, if you please), but you know that. You are merely attempting, again, to show how superior your intellect, and empathy is, compared to us mere heathens who refuse to ascribe to labeling others according to race, sexual preference, creed, etc...

What, exactly, was your intent of this thread other than to show how morally correct, and intellectually superior you are in comparison to others? Despite your protestations to the contrary, you are, indeed, attempting to wield your moral and intellectual authority with this thread. If anyone responded to your thread with condemnation of homosexuality you would have chastised them. If anyone responded to your thread in any way but like-minded, simpering support, you would have done as you are doing: Telling them that they "Don't get it...", as you have done with your response to my post.

You labelled musicians, not I, and you respond to posts not with actual answers, but with questions and self-serving proclamations that are childish attempts to evade and hopefully throw doubt in the mind of the poster you are answering. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of your responses only show the shallow depths at which your original post comes from. You can answer with nothing more than feeble responses prettied up to appear intelligent.

Yes, your thread is ridiculous and only deserves responses dripping with contempt for your facile effort at showing your Progressive, ( I capitalize the word when referring to ignorant zealots who proselytize social change out of a pressing need to fit in with a clique they desperately want to be a part of), "inclusive" ethos.

Ilie Nastase!
 
2112 said:
And yet another attempt at showing just how superior you are when you compare yourself to others. There are different worlds (or world views, if you please), but you know that. You are merely attempting, again, to show how superior your intellect, and empathy is, compared to us mere heathens who refuse to ascribe to labeling others according to race, sexual preference, creed, etc...

What, exactly, was your intent of this thread other than to show how morally correct, and intellectually superior you are in comparison to others? Despite your protestations to the contrary, you are, indeed, attempting to wield your moral and intellectual authority with this thread. If anyone responded to your thread with condemnation of homosexuality you would have chastised them. If anyone responded to your thread in any way but like-minded, simpering support, you would have done as you are doing: Telling them that they "Don't get it...", as you have done with your response to my post.

You labelled musicians, not I, and you respond to posts not with actual answers, but with questions and self-serving proclamations that are childish attempts to evade and hopefully throw doubt in the mind of the poster you are answering. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of your responses only show the shallow depths at which your original post comes from. You can answer with nothing more than feeble responses prettied up to appear intelligent.

Yes, your thread is ridiculous and only deserves responses dripping with contempt for your facile effort at showing your Progressive, ( I capitalize the word when referring to ignorant zealots who proselytize social change out of a pressing need to fit in with a clique they desperately want to be a part of), "inclusive" ethos.

Ilie Nastase!
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Take it to the politics thread.
 
2112 said:
And yet another attempt at showing just how superior you are when you compare yourself to others. There are different worlds (or world views, if you please), but you know that. You are merely attempting, again, to show how superior your intellect, and empathy is, compared to us mere heathens who refuse to ascribe to labeling others according to race, sexual preference, creed, etc...

What, exactly, was your intent of this thread other than to show how morally correct, and intellectually superior you are in comparison to others? Despite your protestations to the contrary, you are, indeed, attempting to wield your moral and intellectual authority with this thread. If anyone responded to your thread with condemnation of homosexuality you would have chastised them. If anyone responded to your thread in any way but like-minded, simpering support, you would have done as you are doing: Telling them that they "Don't get it...", as you have done with your response to my post.

You labelled musicians, not I, and you respond to posts not with actual answers, but with questions and self-serving proclamations that are childish attempts to evade and hopefully throw doubt in the mind of the poster you are answering. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of your responses only show the shallow depths at which your original post comes from. You can answer with nothing more than feeble responses prettied up to appear intelligent.

Yes, your thread is ridiculous and only deserves responses dripping with contempt for your facile effort at showing your Progressive, ( I capitalize the word when referring to ignorant zealots who proselytize social change out of a pressing need to fit in with a clique they desperately want to be a part of), "inclusive" ethos.

Ilie Nastase!
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this thread was obvs meta commentary about a different thread. slow your roll.
 
2112 said:
And yet another attempt at showing just how superior you are when you compare yourself to others. There are different worlds (or world views, if you please), but you know that. You are merely attempting, again, to show how superior your intellect, and empathy is, compared to us mere heathens who refuse to ascribe to labeling others according to race, sexual preference, creed, etc...

What, exactly, was your intent of this thread other than to show how morally correct, and intellectually superior you are in comparison to others? Despite your protestations to the contrary, you are, indeed, attempting to wield your moral and intellectual authority with this thread. If anyone responded to your thread with condemnation of homosexuality you would have chastised them. If anyone responded to your thread in any way but like-minded, simpering support, you would have done as you are doing: Telling them that they "Don't get it...", as you have done with your response to my post.

You labelled musicians, not I, and you respond to posts not with actual answers, but with questions and self-serving proclamations that are childish attempts to evade and hopefully throw doubt in the mind of the poster you are answering. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of your responses only show the shallow depths at which your original post comes from. You can answer with nothing more than feeble responses prettied up to appear intelligent.

Yes, your thread is ridiculous and only deserves responses dripping with contempt for your facile effort at showing your Progressive, ( I capitalize the word when referring to ignorant zealots who proselytize social change out of a pressing need to fit in with a clique they desperately want to be a part of), "inclusive" ethos.

Ilie Nastase!
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Wow again! You're serious I take it. That's hilarious. I hope you get over it, you sound really disturbed.
 
yabba said:
they had a very brief series of reunion shows several years back but Michael (the violinist) had died and it didn't have quite the same manic-ness without him.

The only other live clip I could find was post-Michael, but the mix captures a bit better what I remember the sonic experience being like in person at their shows (the violin was generally very low in the mix)
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They're no Brainworms, but who is?

 
rickenvox said:
let it go. you're wearing your point on your sleeve and repeating it like a homeless person.

And at this point is looks like you're just trying to be provocative and create a problem that isn't there.
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I think this is the point where we, your fake internet friends, tell you it's time to get off the internet and back to the school books. You did post a thread telling us to do exactly that, didn't you?

:hmm:
 
335clone said:
I think this is the point where we, your fake internet friends, tell you it's time to get off the internet and back to the school books. You did post a thread telling us to do exactly that, didn't you?

:hmm:
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I did say that. Funny, this is my activity on breaks from studying.
 
I don’t think that there’s anything at all wrong with the thread topic, though it wasn’t handled with much care.

Let’s all spend the rest of the month listening to the music Benjamin Britten, John Cage, Henry Cowell, Meredith Monk, and Billy Strayhorn.
 
Flamencology said:
I don’t think that there’s anything at all wrong with the thread topic, though it wasn’t handled with much care.

Let’s all spend the rest of the month listening to the music Benjamin Britten, John Cage, Henry Cowell, Meredith Monk, and Billy Strayhorn.
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handling things carelessly is sometimes a calculated goal. I don't know much about Henry Cowell except that it's the basis of the parody name Henry Cow, which was a really great band.
 
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