Achtung! Garbage is the best female fronted rock band ever.

Chad said:
You were making good points until you hit No Doubt. Now your entire credibility has been called into question :grin:
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Apparently you never saw them live back in their heyday. Ska punk roots, one of the most kick ass live female singers ever.

I understand the jest though. I think late No Doubt material and Gwen's solo stuff is what sticks in people's minds.
 
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Dogsinotpalc said:
The Cardigans
Sleater Kinney
Lucious Jackson
Eurythmics
and too many solo artists to bother listing.

I'm not a fan of Garbage, but I like almost every other band here a lot. So yeah, I've got to wrongness for the whole premise of the thread. :thu:
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I forgot about Eurythmics. Annie Lennox was incredible.

I'm a Sleater Kinney fan, but always have mixed feelings about them. Corin Tucker has a powerful voice, but I'm always reminded of their lack of music education every time I hear them, in a way I don't really notice for bands like Sonic Youth. It became more apparent when they tried to branch out more in the album The Woods. Self taught is great, but has huge limits and creates impassable borders that the artist can not seem to cross. You can't reinvent centuries of western music theory and harmony in your own private life.
 
rickenvox said:
Apparently you never saw them live back in their heyday. Ska punk roots, one of the most kick ass live female singers ever.
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Aside from Celine Dion, there isn't a singer I dislike more than her, she irritates me to no end. Not sure when their heyday was but they were on the Warped tour 2 of the many years I went and I don't remember seeing them, so they must not have left an impression.
 
Chad said:
Aside from Celine Dion, there isn't a singer I dislike more than her, she irritates me to no end. Not sure when their heyday was but they were on the Warped tour 2 of the many years I went and I don't remember seeing them, so they must not have left an impression.
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I think I saw them in the second Warped Tour in 1996 - named the Vans Warper Tour. Is that the same one you're talking about? They were headlining the night I saw them, perfect punk show with lots of moshing action. Gwen was probably the first female frontman I saw that kicked ass like a guy.
 
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rickenvox said:
I think I saw them in the second Warped Tour in 1996 - named the Vans Warper Tour. Is that the same one you're talking about? They were headlining the night I saw them, perfect punk show with lots of moshing action.
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The one and only. I went every year from 95-2001. Their site says they were on it in 95 and 2000. I don't remember them at all. If they were headlining, I would have bailed when they went on. I would think I would have remembered them if they were headlining though but I am getting old. I'll have to ask my brother if he remembers seeing them.

I hate when people call them punk or ska, I don't feel they are either. Sure they incorporated some elements from the 2, but they are way more of a pop band.
 
rickenvox said:
I forgot about Eurythmics. Annie Lennox was incredible.

I'm a Sleater Kinney fan, but always have mixed feelings about them. Corin Tucker has a powerful voice, but I'm always reminded of their lack of music education every time I hear them, in a way I don't really notice for bands like Sonic Youth. It became more apparent when they tried to branch out more in the album The Woods. Self taught is great, but has huge limits and creates impassable borders that the artist can not seem to cross. You can't reinvent centuries of western music theory and harmony in your own private life.
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Sonic youth is an example of a band that no matter how many times I tried to listen and like them....I just couldn't. To me it's just noise by people that wanted to be able to play an instrument but never had the ability.
 
Chad said:
You like No Doubt and don't like Sonic Youth. There is no hope for you. :grin:
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If it makes a difference I never actually owned any No Doubt....so I guess I liked a few of their songs more than I actually liked the band.
I was never a big fan of any 90's material. Especially at that time....I can listen back to it now and appreciate it for what it was/is but at that time the 90's movement ruined everything I loved about music. You know, guitar oriented cock rock....lol
 
gtrjunior said:
If it makes a difference I never actually owned any No Doubt....so I guess I liked a few of their songs more than I actually liked the band.
I was never a big fan of any 90's material. Especially at that time....I can listen back to it now and appreciate it for what it was/is but at that time the 90's movement ruined everything I loved about music. You know, guitar oriented cock rock....lol
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I still don't see how the 90s ruined guitar rock. Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains had great guitar players with huge solos. The only thing the early 90s killed was bands wearing spandex, hairspray and makeup and that was a good thing :grin:
 
Chad said:
I still don't see how the 90s ruined guitar rock. Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains had great guitar players with huge solos. The only thing the early 90s killed was bands wearing spandex, hairspray and makeup and that was a good thing :grin:
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Yeah, I liked those bands as well as soundgarden etc. but the rise of the "anybody that can play 4 chords and kinda sing" killed it for me.
There was a huge output of music in that era but most of it was mediocre at best. At least for me.
I will say that because I hated the "grunge" thing I was very close-minded to the vast majority of the music from that era.
That's the time period that I started listening to older stuff...Zep, Beatles, Queen etc.
 
I dig Shirley Manson but to me Garbage has been very 'meh' after the first two albums. I'm not even really a huge fan of the second album.
 
gtrjunior said:
Yeah, I liked those bands as well as soundgarden etc. but the rise of the "anybody that can play 4 chords and kinda sing" killed it for me.
There was a huge output of music in that era but most of it was mediocre at best. At least for me.
I will say that because I hated the "grunge" thing I was very close-minded to the vast majority of the music from that era.
That's the time period that I started listening to older stuff...Zep, Beatles, Queen etc.
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I don't know how old you are, but the 90s was not the first time 4 chords and kinda sing took over. It has always been there, MTV maybe shown a brighter light on it at that time, but Louie Louie was a huge hit decades before the members of Nirvana were even born :grin:
 
Chad said:
I don't know how old you are, but the 90s was not the first time 4 chords and kinda sing took over. It has always been there, MTV maybe shown a brighter light on it at that time, but Louie Louie was a huge hit decades before the members of Nirvana were even born :grin:
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I think we are the same age, or close enough. (I'm 44)
I hear what you're saying and I'm not trying to knock the kinda singing thing too much. Is pretty much the backbone of rock! Lol
I just wasn't a fan of it at the onset of the 90's.
I think it first happened in the 60's with the hippie movement. I'd bet some musicians that got their start in the 50's weren't fans of the 60's revolution either!!
60's hippies----90's hippies.
 
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