Nobody ever, including Harley bros, have ever given me shit about the stock pipes on my Lowrider. They look good and sound good even tho they arnt very loud.
My Enfield 650 however had stock pipes that weighed half the motorcycle and just looked huge and ridiculous. I had to put on some lighter more streamlined aftermarkets to make it as it should be. Yea a bit louder with a pleasing 650 twin gurgle, but not obnoxious if you leave the plugs in. Noticible increase in pep and looks a whole lot better.
And yea, the loud pipes save lives argument doesnt cut it with me. Wanna be safe as possible? Then ride defensively and dont be an idiot.
clearly you do not live in ohio. being a nuisance to one's neighbors is a requirement here.On my street bike, the mfg designed an exhaust system that has equal or better performance than the aftermarket slip-ons. It's a little ugly but actually sounds nice and it's well under the legal noise limit. I wouldn't mind a better looking silencer but it's not worth the ~$500 for me.
If we ever go back to the office, I commute to work by bike, leaving at 6-6:30am, so not being a nuisance to my neighbors is important.
On my street bike, the mfg designed an exhaust system that has equal or better performance than the aftermarket slip-ons. It's a little ugly but actually sounds nice and it's well under the legal noise limit. I wouldn't mind a better looking silencer but it's not worth the ~$500 for me.
If we ever go back to the office, I commute to work by bike, leaving at 6-6:30am, so not being a nuisance to my neighbors is important.
I should also say that this presumes the honda exhaust is well installed and nothing is loose/rattling. And engine is tuned and no backfires. that exhaust note itself is not horrid. But laziness resulting in loose rattles/buzzes, and poorly tuned motors that backfire, fuck them.Harley’s have a harshness/clappiness to the exhaust that annoys me more than the fast and furious.
Yeah, you do what works for you. I don’t really know anything about that stuff.The whole Harley culture is the only problem with owning a Harley. I bought mine cause it was the tool I wanted for the job. A brand new comfortable cruiser good for a trip to the zippy mart or across the country, with a large dealer network. I looked at Indians but the dealer network was suspect. Wasn't really interested in a metric cruiser as they dont hold their value and I wanted a new bike to last the rest of my riding life. I considered an adventure bike but I dont really like the look and they are too tall for my 5'7" frame.
But the Harley culture and image is super annoying and I hate being automatically associated with all that crap. I've considered selling it but its actually a good bike that's perfect for what I want to do with it. To me its just a tool to get from a to b on two wheels comfortably and dependably.
So I just have to tell myself not to take the negative associations personally.
All the negative associations have forced me to keep looking for a different brand or style of bike. But honestly I havnt found anything that fits my purposes as well.Yeah, you do what works for you. I don’t really know anything about that stuff.
I live right outside of Daytona. I hate it here most of the time but twice a year I REALLY hate it. This weekend is one of those times.Harley and (especially) Harley enthusiasts annoy me. They’re like PRS fans, but worse. No Honda Civic leather jackets, no daily Honda Civic pics on social media. So there’s your answer.
Harley and (especially) Harley enthusiasts annoy me. They’re like PRS fans, but worse. No Honda Civic leather jackets, no daily Honda Civic pics on social media. So there’s your answer.
The whole Harley culture is the only problem with owning a Harley. I bought mine cause it was the tool I wanted for the job. A brand new comfortable cruiser good for a trip to the zippy mart or across the country, with a large dealer network. I looked at Indians but the dealer network was suspect. Wasn't really interested in a metric cruiser as they dont hold their value and I wanted a new bike to last the rest of my riding life. I considered an adventure bike but I dont really like the look and they are too tall for my 5'7" frame.
But the Harley culture and image is super annoying and I hate being automatically associated with all that crap. I've considered selling it but its actually a good bike that's perfect for what I want to do with it. To me its just a tool to get from a to b on two wheels comfortably and dependably. My mufflers are stock and I refuse to wear any stupid HD branded merchandise. If I pull up beside you at a light you'd have to roll your window down and ask me to rev it to hear me. The only time I have to deal with the culture at all is when I take it in for service or defend my purchasing decision to the haters. And I understand the hate is totally valid.
So I just have to tell myself not to take it personally.
But it gets to you. So much so that it probably contributed to me buying the Royal Enfield 650 for most of my quick trips around town or short country rides and saving the Harley for all day rides and trips.
You need to immerse yourself in the tuner scene at some point...
You need to immerse yourself in the tuner scene at some point; it's equally awful
Yea my local Yami/Kawi/Triunph/Enfield place is a way more pleasant experience. Its locally owned and been in business since the 70s.My local multi-brand powersports dealer is right down the street from a harley dealer. The road pirates that loiter around that parking lot smoking and jawing always give me a good laugh. I don't miss that scene, or all the costumes & posturing that come with it, at all
Seems to me, that if someone really wanted to road tour economically, an e-motorcycle set up all wind efficient Gulf Stream could be a good option. Would be cool to have one that would do dirt roads well too, ala certain BMW style touring bikes.Yea my local Yami/Kawi/Triunph/Enfield place is a way more pleasant experience. Its locally owned and been in business since the 70s.
When I was considering an Indian Scout tho, the only close dealer was one of those huge multi state chains and I really didn't wanna gamble on them even being around in 3-5 yrs.