Baseball 2018

Yeah, that trade makes no sense at all...you never trade for someone that doesn't want to be there, and you definitely don't overpay for him...
 
Well, not every player wants to be traded, so he can suck it up like the rest of the league. Maybe actually seeing fans in the stands will soften the sting. TB had the lowest attendance in the majors last year, while SF had the 3rd highest despite having a horrid year. Fuck him if he's a whiny bitch though, he can grab some pine and wonder why Panda is starting.

As for the actual trade, I'm thinking they cannot be done. Dumping Span and Arroyo probably had to happen to get the deal done to shore up 3rd, which was a problem the last 2 years. Yeah, theoretically the infield is set (assuming Belt is OK), but the outfield and bullpen need help, and starting pitching is going to be a big question mark. Again.

But it's baseball, where anything can happen.
 
335clone said:
Well, not every player wants to be traded, so he can suck it up like the rest of the league. Maybe actually seeing fans in the stands will soften the sting. TB had the lowest attendance in the majors last year, while SF had the 3rd highest despite having a horrid year. Fuck him if he's a whiny bitch though, he can grab some pine and wonder why Panda is starting.

As for the actual trade, I'm thinking they cannot be done. Dumping Span and Arroyo probably had to happen to get the deal done to shore up 3rd, which was a problem the last 2 years. Yeah, theoretically the infield is set (assuming Belt is OK), but the outfield and bullpen need help, and starting pitching is going to be a big question mark. Again.

But it's baseball, where anything can happen.
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The Giants are going to suck this year and the farm system sucks even worse. On paper, they're a third or fourth place team in their division, with the Dodgers running away with it. Again.
 
Well, to be honest they sucked for a good part of 2 of their 3 WS seasons. And, the Dodgers looked invincible for most of the last 5 seasons yet only made the show once despite winning the division consistently. Then, they tanked when it counted. That's why they play all 162+ games. Bring it, we thrive on torture.
 
335clone said:
Well, to be honest they sucked for a good part of 2 of their 3 WS seasons. And, the Dodgers looked invincible for most of the last 5 seasons yet only made the show once despite winning the division consistently. Then, they tanked when it counted. That's why they play all 162+ games. Bring it, we thrive on torture.
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I think the difference this year will be the farm system. There's nobody. I don't know the Giants financial situation, but they've always been big spenders and could certainly fill holes that way. If it were me, I would go full rebuild.
 
335clone said:
I think they have luxury tax issues or something.

https://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2...ants-luxury-tax-payroll-offseason-free-agency

Slightly out of date since the aforementioned trade, but the numbers are not good for this year.
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Grant gets it right!

"But if the Giants can convince a team to take Span’s salary — either in a deal to acquire an expensive player, or with another team essentially buying a prospect from them — they’ll have that much more to spend this year. Consider the case of Evan Longoria, who would count as a $17 million hit against the luxury tax. The Rays are worried more about the $83 million he’s owed over the next five years than the money he’ll make next year. The Giants would be more worried about the $17 million hit this year.

If the Giants include Span in that deal, though, they could add Longoria and just $2 million to their 2018 luxury tax figure. Considering that the Rays would likely have to add cash to a Longoria deal to get good prospects, it’s possible that they would consider this kind of move."
 
Still, not a lot of money left to fix the outfield & bullpen. We have to keep Melancon, who was a steaming pile of shit instead of the savior he was brought in to be. But yeah, I see why the Longoria deal made financial sense. If they dump panda, they can use his salary for post game pizza for the rest of the team.
 
335clone said:
Still, not a lot of money left to fix the outfield & bullpen. We have to keep Melancon, who was a steaming pile of shit instead of the savior he was brought in to be. But yeah, I see why the Longoria deal made financial sense. If they dump panda, they can use his salary for post game pizza for the rest of the team.
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Which is why they won't compete. There's nothing wrong with the Giants punting on this season. But they should commit to it instead of just being mediocre. Trade everyone making more than the league minimum, stock the farm, and add free agents next year.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/2018-19-mlb-free-agents.html
 
335clone said:
Not going to happen, at least not this year.
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If they suck badly enough, they could dump players at the deadline. But they should do the opposite of what the Mets did last year and get prospects in return instead of salary relief. Mets got salary relief. Their farm system is mediocre and they don't have the talent or the budget to compete next year. Might as well just go home.
 
Mets sign Jay Bruce to a 3 year, $39 million deal.

If this team were actually a big market team, they would have signed Lorenzo Cain. He's a much better defender and can actually play CF. Which is really what they need.

I'm so done.
 
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