OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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what i really want to know is......what are the joint chiefs talking about behind closed doors. are they, thru their secret military channels, setting up a military solution to this obvious attempt at a dictatorship?

WILL THE MILITARY OBEY THIS ASSHOLE IF HE DECLARES NATIONAL MARSHALL LAW??

will the national guard obey?

will the police departments obey?

if the answer to any of these is yes....we are about to become the new north korea.
 
mongooz said:
those are the exact uneducated backwoods redneck fucktards that put dumpster in.

there needs to be a test to identify stupid before you get to vote.
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One guy didn't vote.

Secondly, they'll be dismissed by authentic uneducated backwoods redneck fucktards because they're from New York.
 
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Help!I'maRock! said:
One guy didn't vote.

Secondly, they'll be dismissed by authentic uneducated backwoods redneck fucktards because they're from New York.
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no they won't be dismissed. i'm from northern Pa. the whole fucking state is like that. so is much of ohio and all of michigan. lived there too.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
Pennsylvania isn't a liberal haven. Liberals take over from time to time, but it's not New York.
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Like many states it's predominantly conservative in the sitcks, mixed in the suburbs & liberal in the urban areas so it's all about who gets the vote out.
 
mongooz said:
there needs to be a test to identify stupid before you get to vote.
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Yeah, because that's a policy that worked wonders for Hitler and the Nazis...

I love how the reaction to things happening that you don't like is to restrict the rights and freedoms if the people responsible...it's kind of like restricting immigration rights to groups you don't trust...
 
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jelloman said:
I love how the reaction to things happening that you don't like is to restrict the rights and freedoms if the people responsible...it's kind of like restricting immigration rights to groups you don't trust...
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It's been that way on both sides on the coin going back as far as I can remember (Reagan). After each election cycle a portion of the losing ideology is convinced that the members of the other ideology are unfit to participate in the process.
 
Lerxst said:
It's been that way on both sides on the coin going back as far as I can remember (Reagan). After each election cycle a portion of the losing ideology is convinced that the members of the other ideology are unfit to participate in the process.
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Yep. I want everyone to participate, but there shouldn't be a test.
 
Lerxst said:
It's been that way on both sides on the coin going back as far as I can remember (Reagan). After each election cycle a portion of the losing ideology is convinced that the members of the other ideology are unfit to participate in the process.
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And it's the exact part of the political climate that I react strongest to...

By all means protest, resist, use whatever voice you have to express your point if view, but do not protest the politics of exclusion by advocating exclusion...it's the worst hypocrisy...
 
jelloman said:
And it's the exact part of the political climate that I react strongest to...

By all means protest, resist, use whatever voice you have to express your point if view, but do not protest the politics of exclusion by advocating exclusion...it's the worst hypocrisy...
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I agree which is also why I think that the voter ID laws and gerrymandering of congressional districts represent institutionalized exclusion and are corrosive to our political system.
 
jelloman said:
Yeah, because that's a policy that worked wonders for Hitler and the Nazis...

I love how the reaction to things happening that you don't like is to restrict the rights and freedoms if the people responsible...it's kind of like restricting immigration rights to groups you don't trust...
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you know what i mean. :mad:
 
mongooz said:
you know what i mean. :mad:
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Yes, I do, but I also know what you said...

I understand how angry and frustrated you are at what is happening, but the best way to deal with it is to stand by the core values that unite us and vehemently protest when those values are being violated, and also to work to change the system that allows situations like these to exist...
 
I've kind of stayed away from this thread and, as much as I knew he was a tool, I respect democracy and felt like he should be given a fair chance as President

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He's been in a week and is already causing mayhem and acting like a tin pot dictator. I listen to talk radio on the way home from gigs and on Saturday night they had some ex top from the CIA on. He was foaming at the mouth about how this should have been done years ago because of 9/11. The presenter pointed out that none of the attackers were from any of these countries and on the flipside - Saudis who made up the majority of attackers weren't barred entry.

The guy came back talking about how powerful the Saudi lobby is and basically boiled it down to - Saudi and Israel bribe the system to the point that they can do whatever the hell they want. Those countries that don't (such as these 7)? well tough.


If anything this whole thing is going to galvanise radical Islamic support. I think Obama went a long way to qualming the American imperialist sentiment a lot of countries (not just from the Arab world either) felt about American geo-politics and before the new paint has dried in the White House Trump has shot it to shreds.

I've no fear that Trump will make it to 2020 without doing something to get impeached but I just hope he doesn't fuck up too much shit before then.
 
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