OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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I can't believe he went through with the Muslim country entry ban. Disgusting as fuck.

I am sick to my stomach about this. What a disgusting human being. I hope our forumites from around the world will share this with their friends and families, it really sums up what I think most of us feel and believe.

http://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/01/28/dear-world-from-america/

Dear World,

We felt we needed to say something while saying something is still allowed.

We know many of you have lived under malevolent, unhinged Dictators before, but this is new for us. For its history our nation has been led by men who, despite their varying flaws and deficiencies, some of which were quite disturbing—were by and large, normal human beings. Whatever darkness in them, they had at the very least, a baseline of humanity and decency that more often than not insured rational behavior.

This man is not normal.

He is unstable, malignant, devoid of integrity—and he does not speak for us.

Please understand that nearly three million more people voted for his opponent Hillary Clinton than for him. (Yes, we realize this is completely screwed-up). Millions more voted for other candidates, and sadly nearly 90 million of our people did not vote at all. The point is, the vast majority of Americans are not with him. He does not speak for us. His America is not our America.

Over the past week, we’ve watched long erected pillars of our Republic bulldozed in the stroke of a madman’s pen. We’ve seen the very hallmarks of who we are as a nation tossed in the garbage; the celebration of diverse coexistence, the open welcome to the oppressed, the guarantee of unalienable rights for every person, the same access to health and opportunity and safety afforded to everyone, the freedom to speak without censor or restraint. At this moment these are all in great jeopardy.

Things we took for granted in our leadership: things like goodness, wisdom, and basic truthfulness are no longer in play, and as things are eroding quickly we wanted to let you know that we’re sorry.

We’re sorry that our apathy and laziness have yielded such a reckless, impulsive, small man to steward this nation.
We’re sorry for the jagged, bitter ugliness that is characterizing us in these moments.
We’re sorry to those suffering greatly, who have braved such peril to seek refuge here and who’ve now been turned away based on the faith they profess.
We’re sorry to our Mexican neighbors who’ve been fashioned into convenient villains for erecting a grandiose, wasteful display of false protection that we do not want.
We’re sorry to Muslims everywhere who’ve been used as pawns to generate irrational fear among those already susceptible to bigotry and discrimination.

We’re sorry to the leaders of the world, who instead of being met by level-headed, measured, intelligent dialogue, are now greeted with the social media rantings of a furious child.

We’re sorry to those who now experience the Christian faith as a racist, Nationalistic bully pulpit wielded with malice toward the very diverse Humanity Jesus lived and died for.
We’re sorry to people everywhere whose lives are made more tenuous, more violent, less safe, less secure than it has been before.

We want you to know that this is not who we are. It may be who this man is. It may be who those sharing power with him are. It may even be the tens of millions who originally voted for him (though that support is vanishing quickly among those who not among the religious zealots and extremists).

But this is not America. It is not the steady, strong beacon of freedom that it was intended to be. It is not the America our people have fought and died for. It is not the one first formed in the crucible of oppression and cast into the words of our ever-disregarded Constitution.

This is not our America. Our America affirms the inherent, priceless beauty of every human being. Our America declares that no person is ascribed less value because of their skin color, religion, gender, financial means, sexual orientation, nation of origin, or any other variable. Our America is home for those seeking hope and joy and rest.

And we are going to fight for this America. Through political channels and through grassroots activism, through the use of our Press and of our personal voices, we’re going to expose this man’s incompetence, call out his heart sickness, and condemn every violent, reckless, vicious act when it does not reflect our hearts and our will. Please do your best to disregard anything that comes from his mouth or those loudly and continually parroting his propaganda. They have proven themselves mortally allergic to the truth.

And we hope that in whatever way you can, that you will stand with us. We know that we have made this mess ourselves. We understand that you have your own problems to contend with, some far more urgent and pressing than this, but we believe that we are a single community; that we are tethered together in our Humanity, that we are in real-time crafting the life our children and their children will inherit.

Dear World, we’re sorry and we hope you’ll endure these days with us.

With Despair and Hope in equal measure, in Peace and Unity with you,

The American Majority
 
I am sick to my stomach about this. What a disgusting human being. I hope our forumites from around the world will share this with their friends and families, it really sums up what I think most of us feel and believe.

http://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/01/28/dear-world-from-america/

Dear World,

We felt we needed to say something while saying something is still allowed.

We know many of you have lived under malevolent, unhinged Dictators before, but this is new for us. For its history our nation has been led by men who, despite their varying flaws and deficiencies, some of which were quite disturbing—were by and large, normal human beings. Whatever darkness in them, they had at the very least, a baseline of humanity and decency that more often than not insured rational behavior.

This man is not normal.

He is unstable, malignant, devoid of integrity—and he does not speak for us.

Please understand that nearly three million more people voted for his opponent Hillary Clinton than for him. (Yes, we realize this is completely screwed-up). Millions more voted for other candidates, and sadly nearly 90 million of our people did not vote at all. The point is, the vast majority of Americans are not with him. He does not speak for us. His America is not our America.

Over the past week, we’ve watched long erected pillars of our Republic bulldozed in the stroke of a madman’s pen. We’ve seen the very hallmarks of who we are as a nation tossed in the garbage; the celebration of diverse coexistence, the open welcome to the oppressed, the guarantee of unalienable rights for every person, the same access to health and opportunity and safety afforded to everyone, the freedom to speak without censor or restraint. At this moment these are all in great jeopardy.

Things we took for granted in our leadership: things like goodness, wisdom, and basic truthfulness are no longer in play, and as things are eroding quickly we wanted to let you know that we’re sorry.

We’re sorry that our apathy and laziness have yielded such a reckless, impulsive, small man to steward this nation.
We’re sorry for the jagged, bitter ugliness that is characterizing us in these moments.
We’re sorry to those suffering greatly, who have braved such peril to seek refuge here and who’ve now been turned away based on the faith they profess.
We’re sorry to our Mexican neighbors who’ve been fashioned into convenient villains for erecting a grandiose, wasteful display of false protection that we do not want.
We’re sorry to Muslims everywhere who’ve been used as pawns to generate irrational fear among those already susceptible to bigotry and discrimination.

We’re sorry to the leaders of the world, who instead of being met by level-headed, measured, intelligent dialogue, are now greeted with the social media rantings of a furious child.
We’re sorry to those who now experience the Christian faith as a racist, Nationalistic bully pulpit wielded with malice toward the very diverse Humanity Jesus lived and died for.
We’re sorry to people everywhere whose lives are made more tenuous, more violent, less safe, less secure than it has been before.


We want you to know that this is not who we are. It may be who this man is. It may be who those sharing power with him are. It may even be the tens of millions who originally voted for him (though that support is vanishing quickly among those who not among the religious zealots and extremists).

But this is not America. It is not the steady, strong beacon of freedom that it was intended to be. It is not the America our people have fought and died for. It is not the one first formed in the crucible of oppression and cast into the words of our ever-disregarded Constitution.

This is not our America. Our America affirms the inherent, priceless beauty of every human being. Our America declares that no person is ascribed less value because of their skin color, religion, gender, financial means, sexual orientation, nation of origin, or any other variable. Our America is home for those seeking hope and joy and rest.

And we are going to fight for this America. Through political channels and through grassroots activism, through the use of our Press and of our personal voices, we’re going to expose this man’s incompetence, call out his heart sickness, and condemn every violent, reckless, vicious act when it does not reflect our hearts and our will. Please do your best to disregard anything that comes from his mouth or those loudly and continually parroting his propaganda. They have proven themselves mortally allergic to the truth.

And we hope that in whatever way you can, that you will stand with us. We know that we have made this mess ourselves. We understand that you have your own problems to contend with, some far more urgent and pressing than this, but we believe that we are a single community; that we are tethered together in our Humanity, that we are in real-time crafting the life our children and their children will inherit.

Dear World, we’re sorry and we hope you’ll endure these days with us.

With Despair and Hope in equal measure, in Peace and Unity with you,

The American Majority
The American Majority isn't represented by this guy and quite frankly, he's got a lot of balls thinking he does. Never heard of the dude before, and probably never will again.

As far as how many votes Hillary "won" by, my understanding is most of those votes were in CA. Do we want 4 or 5 states picking our president? There is no perfect solution, but the electoral college worked as intended in this case.

I'm sure Hillary would trade her popular vote "win" any day for what Trump pulled off.
 
I'm very disappointed in our shadow government and secret chiefs. They murdered Kennedy in broad daylight for telling Marilyn about the UFOs after sexy times. And yet this shit is going unpunished?!?!
 
The American Majority isn't represented by this guy and quite frankly, he's got a lot of balls thinking he does. Never heard of the dude before, and probably never will again.

As far as how many votes Hillary "won" by, my understanding is most of those votes were in CA. Do we want 4 or 5 states picking our president? There is no perfect solution, but the electoral college worked as intended in this case.

I'm sure Hillary would trade her popular vote "win" any day for what Trump pulled off.
where do you get "the electoral college worked as intended"? it's PURPOSE is to stop a dictator from assuming the presidency. it did not work. it should be abolished.
 
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The American Majority isn't represented by this guy and quite frankly, he's got a lot of balls thinking he does. Never heard of the dude before, and probably never will again.

As far as how many votes Hillary "won" by, my understanding is most of those votes were in CA. Do we want 4 or 5 states picking our president? There is no perfect solution, but the electoral college worked as intended in this case.

I'm sure Hillary would trade her popular vote "win" any day for what Trump pulled off.

I strongly support a popular vote with instant runoff, and have articulated this since long before this election. Either that, or a parliamentary system.

And yes, the votes of 3 million Californians SHOULD carry more weight than 49 votes from the other 49 other states.

I understand the logic of the electoral college, but it's an archaic 250-year-old system that's failing and ought to be scrapped and replaced.
 
where do you get "the electoral college worked as intended"? it's PURPOSE is to stop a dictator from assuming the presidency. it did not work. it should be abolished.
Let me rephrase that: in the way the votes were apportioned, the EC worked as intended.

You don't like the outcome, I get it. But the system worked.
 
I'm very disappointed in our shadow government and secret chiefs. They murdered Kennedy in broad daylight for telling Marilyn about the UFOs after sexy times. And yet this shit is going unpunished?!?!

We are now living in some kind of bizarre alternative reality.About to decide its gotta be.......
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The American Majority isn't represented by this guy and quite frankly, he's got a lot of balls thinking he does. Never heard of the dude before, and probably never will again.

As far as how many votes Hillary "won" by, my understanding is most of those votes were in CA. Do we want 4 or 5 states picking our president? There is no perfect solution, but the electoral college worked as intended in this case.

I'm sure Hillary would trade her popular vote "win" any day for what Trump pulled off.

So you're ok with a person who lives in California or Texas' vote counting less than a person who lives in Monatana or Idaho? Because as the EC stands today, that is exactly what happens. If they didn't cap the House of Representatives in 1929, the electoral college would still work, but then California would have over 1200 people in the House of Representatives. It is broken and needs to go. And as for 4 or 5 states deciding the election, with the EC, that is exactly what happens, Virginia, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania decide the election.

Due you understand what a majority is? Because Clinton won the majority of votes, so a majority of Americans didn't vote for Trump nor do they like him or what he represents.
 
Let me rephrase that: in the way the votes were apportioned, the EC worked as intended.

You don't like the outcome, I get it. But the system worked.

no....i did not. the electors are SUPPOSED to cast their votes according to their sworn duty to preserve the republic. but states have changed their individual laws to not allow this to happen. the electors in most states are NOT allowed to vote their conscious, hence rendering the EC not only a waste of time but a disservice to the republic.

it is past it time. it SHOULD be abolished.
 
The American Majority isn't represented by this guy and quite frankly, he's got a lot of balls thinking he does. Never heard of the dude before, and probably never will again.

As far as how many votes Hillary "won" by, my understanding is most of those votes were in CA. Do we want 4 or 5 states picking our president? There is no perfect solution, but the electoral college worked as intended in this case.

I'm sure Hillary would trade her popular vote "win" any day for what Trump pulled off.

The American majority isn't represented by your guy either :wink:
 
We actually don't know what the true majority thinks, because a good chunk of them can't be arsed to get out and vote.

It's pretty simple: we do know that of those who voted, more voted for the other person....unless you buy into the 3-5 million fraudulent votes theory. It doesn't change the outcome but you can not argue that DJT represents a majority of voters.
 
It's pretty simple: we do know that of those who voted, more voted for the other person....unless you buy into the 3-5 million fraudulent votes theory. It doesn't change the outcome but you can not argue that DJT represents a majority of voters.
I believe there is voter fraud, I think it's inevitable. Not nearly 3-5 million votes though.

I'm not arguing that Trump didn't win the popular vote, he didn't. As I said before, I'm sure Clinton would gladly trade places with Trump right now.
 
It's pretty simple: we do know that of those who voted, more voted for the other person....unless you buy into the 3-5 million fraudulent votes theory. It doesn't change the outcome but you can not argue that DJT represents a majority of voters.
NO......dumpster represents a majority of electoral college electors...which are NOT allowed to vote their conscious....they MUST vote the state electoral votes....which is NOT what is was created to do. dumpster DOES NOT represent the majority of the individual voters.
 
Sure people are happy when their candidate wins, no matter if it's by hook or by crook, but I'm uncertain how that's relevant
It's relevant because I'd betcha you wouldn't be hearing much about the EC if Clinton had won in that fashion.
 
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It's relevant because I'd betcha you wouldn't be hearing much about the EC if Clinton had won in that fashion.

Right...but I'm still not sure how that's relevant to the discussion of how a great number of people, perhaps a majority of Americans, may be unhappy with the executive orders of the current administration.
 
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