OMG Politics, I'm over it already.
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sunvalleylaw
Yep.
1,10o in Ketchum, Idaho. A town of maybe 4k? Drawing from a local overall population of around 20k in that part of the county. Boise drew 5,000 from a much larger population. Stanley, Idaho, population 66, drew 30, including resident Carole King.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article127984764.html
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It was broken down and explained by people who had a very vested interest in seeing it fail. It was explained to you by people who've also been saying they have a better idea, but even after 6 years don't have squat to present as a replacement.
Please explain to us what, exactly, in the ACA forced insurance companies to raise rates. The only thing the ACA forced on insurance companies is that they had to extend family coverage to kids until they were 26, and they couldn't refuse anyone because of preexisting conditions. I can't see how either of these was so onerous that it forced substantially higher rate.
In case you hadn't noticed the cost of health care and health insurance was spiraling put of control well before the ACA. You may also want to note that the largest segment of the population (the baby boomers) is getting ever older, and costing insurance companies more for their health care.
Lastly, you might want to go read the SEC filings from some of the health insurance companies paying particular attention to their yearly profits and their executive compensation.
PunkKitty
Horny bag of electric meat
Pine Apple Slim
Kick Henry Jackassowski
I just think its time Native Americans won a NIMBY for a change. Put it back on the original route.Tell us again how this one pipeline will ruin this oh so holy land? You ever been on a res man? I have, you need to visit few.
mongooz
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ACA was a good excuse to jack up rates. just like when a refinery in texas is having maintenance done, gas around the country goes up 50 cents a gallon.
excuses.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
And who broke it down for you? The insurance company or the HR person at your work who was told by the insurance company.
And who said anything was free? I can assure you, my insurance is not free nor do I believe anything is free. If you saw what I pay in income taxes each year, you'd probably throw up in your mouth a little. But I wouldn't mind paying even more if that meant people who can't afford health care get it instead of going to more weapons and corporate welfare.
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Switzerland has the system the ACA was modeled on, with a mandated purchase of private insurance for every person. The poor get some govt support, but most people do not. The difference is that in the Swiss laws, the companies providing insurance must cover everyone, the government tells them what they can charge. They can't make a profit off the base coverage...but they can sell add ons like lower deductible, private rooms, etc plans st a profit. If you apply to a company they must take you. So, you have a regulated minimum coverage and companies can't make a profit. Companies use the basic coverage to pay thei staff and operations and make their money off the upsell of perks. The basic cost is about 400 bucks a month per person. I guess that gives you some idea what insurance actually costs. In terms of comparisons, the Swiss health system is among the very best in the world, and is better than what exists in the US.
I think the US made Mistakes in not closely regulating the prices companies can charge. We implemented a system like the Swiss, but with a giant loophole for insurance company profits.
I think the US made Mistakes in not closely regulating the prices companies can charge. We implemented a system like the Swiss, but with a giant loophole for insurance company profits.
micwalt
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That wasn't a mistake--it was done intentionally.
Oh, I'm sure it was placed in the law for the insurance companies. I think a few saw they had no competition in their market area and jacked up prices to the max, knowing people HAD to pay it.
Another weird twist of the Swiss system is that it is illegal for an employer to pay for an employees insurance, provide compensation specifically to buy insurance, suggest an insurance provider, or have any input in a person's healthcare insurance choices. They think it is crazy that Americans get insurance from their employers and therefore have medical care tied to employment.
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Chad
Slender Hobbit
That's why the right shooting down the public option really crippled the ACA. If you had the option to buy into Medicare, it would have kept the insurance companies honest but the right wouldn't allow it, too much money in the campaign purse from them for that to be allowed.
micwalt
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I kinda wish I were moving to Switzerland.
rsadasiv
Burnin' Daylight
This is the most ignorant thing I've read today. Congratulations.
Chad
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I have a friend of the family that moved to Switzerland years ago. He loves it there. I've tried to get my wife to pursue a professorship in Europe so we can get the hell out of here.
It is hard to make that a direct comparison, as the economics of the two countries are quite different. The exchange rate of dollars to francs is like 1:1, but salaries are higher for every job there. The 400 is expensive, but certainly affordable to the average person.
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