I've got the greatest guitar of them all!
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Control Knobs
After all the other abuse I took I'm surprised nobody ever pointed out that the tone-knob is on the output side of the amp, not the input side. Thus having a tone knob makes a big difference. Here's one more of the Blond V.
Next the ML needs another upgrade for the V&T knobs and a detailing for sure. The main reason to open it though is cuase it's out-jack seems a little flakey. Won't be hard to address while detailed.
After all the other abuse I took I'm surprised nobody ever pointed out that the tone-knob is on the output side of the amp, not the input side. Thus having a tone knob makes a big difference. Here's one more of the Blond V.
Next the ML needs another upgrade for the V&T knobs and a detailing for sure. The main reason to open it though is cuase it's out-jack seems a little flakey. Won't be hard to address while detailed.
"You killed that guitar now too?"
My wife actually said that.
She actually just felt left out of the project and had a hard day. Still it's a good thing I don't let anyone else kill my enthusiasm. I really do like it better this way (post-cut-outline).
I'm still planning to add the T&V knobs, another jack and considering adding the transmitter. What Ive figured out with the transmitter is that it's too high-gain for a mic to work right with the guitar other than V knob way-down so it needs attenuation. Bummer I put that mark on the face with the saw. Maybe if I put marks all over the front of it like that but in lighting bolts and then spray a little clear... hmmm I'm open to ideas.
Thanks in advance,
Elliott
My wife actually said that.
She actually just felt left out of the project and had a hard day. Still it's a good thing I don't let anyone else kill my enthusiasm. I really do like it better this way (post-cut-outline).
I'm still planning to add the T&V knobs, another jack and considering adding the transmitter. What Ive figured out with the transmitter is that it's too high-gain for a mic to work right with the guitar other than V knob way-down so it needs attenuation. Bummer I put that mark on the face with the saw. Maybe if I put marks all over the front of it like that but in lighting bolts and then spray a little clear... hmmm I'm open to ideas.
Thanks in advance,
Elliott
Shit
Hi matou. Sorry for that. This one made me feel like shit:
What I'm thinking about it now is to either take parts or maybe try putting pins and experimenting with tuning peg locations variations via welding project (still gotta fire up that Christmas mig).
Hi matou. Sorry for that. This one made me feel like shit:
What I'm thinking about it now is to either take parts or maybe try putting pins and experimenting with tuning peg locations variations via welding project (still gotta fire up that Christmas mig).
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ellengtrgrl
Guitar Old Timer
Hi matou. Sorry for that. This one made me feel like shit:
What I'm thinking about it now is to either take parts or maybe try putting pins and experimenting with tuning peg locations variations via welding project (still gotta fire up that Christmas mig).
Why?
They kind of look kludged together and messy. It's cool that you like your chop job guitars (different strokes for different folks), but why do you keep on pushing them on us, by resurrecting this thread, when everybody has basically said "meh"? Like my Schecter Omen Extreme 7, 7-string guitar (which among my 3 guitars, sees serious playing time), at best, your guitars are niche instruments. Take it from me (us 7 & 8-string guitar players are considered to be the mavericks of the guitar world), it doesn't pay to constantly preach about a niche instrument like your franken-ghetto blaster guitars? It's just annoying. So is declaring in your original post with video, that they're the greatest guitars around, because you either believe that we should feel that way (take it from an occasional semi-pro lead guitarist who's been playing for 31 years, that's very much open for debate), or you're trolling, which is not cool either. Don't you think you've done enough posting about your boom box guitars?
Shit turned to Good
Well I cludged a fix to the head of the prototype Power Guitar. Hiere's a pic (plays/tunes well):
Well I cludged a fix to the head of the prototype Power Guitar. Hiere's a pic (plays/tunes well):
Anoyances vs Building and Sharing for Common Good?
Hi ellengtrgrl,
Thanks for explaining your perspective in detail. In answer, a few things from mine which is obviously different than yours. believe me it's a charity view from my perspective to provide anything here at all because I believe other guitarists will ultimately benefit from technology improvements (it's time for more electronics in the guitars than just coils, switches, and potentiometers).
So where are the project forums? If not in 1 thread such as this one then where and why there instead of here? Even niches shouldn't be relegated to oblivion if there's an interest. And from my own interest toward niche (real-guitars not the travel/toy/mini like now) from my own examples there might grow a realistic niche. And yea I'm hopeful that such a reality will lead to that niche taking over like cell phones have in the phone world. This one appeared friendlier than the rest, and why it's still alive. There have been a few greatly appreciative comments along the way but those bloggers seem to disappear as more annoyed bloggers post more... is there a prob in blog-world or am I just in the wrong forum or what? I really do wanna know - if anyone really can answer (sorry if I'm being a little rhetorical).
Time-gap on old thread cause it seemed same-theme-updated with the news worthy items for anyone actually interested in the concept. And as far as the interest in the concept goes... it's been around since electric guitars were invented so why/how can that be offensive (apparently it has become so but escapes me how or why other than slash or jimi didn't play it).
I do hope it to fill more than a niche over the next 20 years (eg: amp-with-transmitters-in-guitar) based on the benefits of the technology directly (stands on its' own). They produce live strings and 100% mobility that acoustics can enjoy.
So respectfully I hope that's a reasonable answer to why this thread should exist. And please if there's a better location and method to promote technology rather then expensive products - - - I would obviously benefit from the advice. Otherwise the haters and controversy seem to be the ONLY approach to popularizing things. There sure are enough examples of that around and I'm not looking for it myself and have avoided the head-to-heads. Flames = invitations to reply w/ guitar-concept-accomplishments since the flamers are the ones out of bounds in such cases (imho).
Well what's the common view for promoting technologies in the guitar world or does nobody care? What make one guitar better than another? Does anyone read specs on their equipment? Or am I the only person in the world who would ____ (hmmm sure lots of words fit there - but in the offensive-forum-issue-way???)?
Thanks.
Why?
Don't you think you've done enough posting about your boom box guitars?
Hi ellengtrgrl,
Thanks for explaining your perspective in detail. In answer, a few things from mine which is obviously different than yours. believe me it's a charity view from my perspective to provide anything here at all because I believe other guitarists will ultimately benefit from technology improvements (it's time for more electronics in the guitars than just coils, switches, and potentiometers).
So where are the project forums? If not in 1 thread such as this one then where and why there instead of here? Even niches shouldn't be relegated to oblivion if there's an interest. And from my own interest toward niche (real-guitars not the travel/toy/mini like now) from my own examples there might grow a realistic niche. And yea I'm hopeful that such a reality will lead to that niche taking over like cell phones have in the phone world. This one appeared friendlier than the rest, and why it's still alive. There have been a few greatly appreciative comments along the way but those bloggers seem to disappear as more annoyed bloggers post more... is there a prob in blog-world or am I just in the wrong forum or what? I really do wanna know - if anyone really can answer (sorry if I'm being a little rhetorical).
Time-gap on old thread cause it seemed same-theme-updated with the news worthy items for anyone actually interested in the concept. And as far as the interest in the concept goes... it's been around since electric guitars were invented so why/how can that be offensive (apparently it has become so but escapes me how or why other than slash or jimi didn't play it).
I do hope it to fill more than a niche over the next 20 years (eg: amp-with-transmitters-in-guitar) based on the benefits of the technology directly (stands on its' own). They produce live strings and 100% mobility that acoustics can enjoy.
So respectfully I hope that's a reasonable answer to why this thread should exist. And please if there's a better location and method to promote technology rather then expensive products - - - I would obviously benefit from the advice. Otherwise the haters and controversy seem to be the ONLY approach to popularizing things. There sure are enough examples of that around and I'm not looking for it myself and have avoided the head-to-heads. Flames = invitations to reply w/ guitar-concept-accomplishments since the flamers are the ones out of bounds in such cases (imho).
Well what's the common view for promoting technologies in the guitar world or does nobody care? What make one guitar better than another? Does anyone read specs on their equipment? Or am I the only person in the world who would ____ (hmmm sure lots of words fit there - but in the offensive-forum-issue-way???)?
Thanks.
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ellengtrgrl
Guitar Old Timer
Oh well, good luck. Frankly I wonder if you really understand that the physics of acoustics limit you to what you can do soundwise. And saying that you're giving us charity views of your work sounds kind of egotistical (as in "you're unworthy to view my stuff, but here, go ahead and view it anyway). Like I said earlier, you keep on hammering at us like you feel we're blind, and need to see the light. It's just my opinion, but that seems kind of condescending. BTW, I also have a techical background. I have degrees in engineering, took electronics courses in college, and have had a ham radio license for the past 32 years. I typically have done the guitar tech work in my bands, and have even worked on my amps. Frankly, guitar electronics is peanuts compared to RF electronics (I've restored vintage ham radios from non working pieces of junk, Built complete working radios [that I've used to talk to other ham radio operators] and have repaired my modern ham radios, when they've needed it).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that you're relatively new to guitar, since you did not seem to know about the guitars and guitar cases with built in amps, when previous posters mentioned them. They've been around for quite some time, and have all been spectacularly mediocre (with the possible exception of the [tube] amp-in-case Silvertone, which has tons of crude garage rock mojo, if you're into that kind of thing). They all make a sound - yes. But that's all you can say about them. It seems like you're trying to do paradigm shift in guitar, but why try to force it on everybody? Oh and I'm not a fuddy duddy. I don't use typical gear for heavy rock (I use hollowbodies, a Fender Jaguar, a 7-string, and a Danelectro). I also am not a tube amp snob. Tube amps sound cool (during the 90s, Mesas were my amp of choice), but so do many solid state amps in my opinion. Heck my main amp is a Randall. It has nice cleans, does decent mid-gain tones, and can shovel out the high gain tones up to death metal levels! Unless your're willing to model your amp type, and speaker type, you will probably always be stuck with some blah, "it sounds so-so clean, and crappy under heavy distortion" sounds, due to the acoustic limitations, that having man-portable speaker systems engender. Throw in the fact that the amp circuits you are using are basic bipolar amp circuits, that produce crappy sounding harmonics when clipping (no filtering of them in the output section, nor emulation circuitry before the final amp section), and you'll probably always have the equivalent of a boom box you can play a guitar through. Most players don't care for amps like that.
In all respect, what you're attempting is cool, but rather limited, not guitar world changing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that you're relatively new to guitar, since you did not seem to know about the guitars and guitar cases with built in amps, when previous posters mentioned them. They've been around for quite some time, and have all been spectacularly mediocre (with the possible exception of the [tube] amp-in-case Silvertone, which has tons of crude garage rock mojo, if you're into that kind of thing). They all make a sound - yes. But that's all you can say about them. It seems like you're trying to do paradigm shift in guitar, but why try to force it on everybody? Oh and I'm not a fuddy duddy. I don't use typical gear for heavy rock (I use hollowbodies, a Fender Jaguar, a 7-string, and a Danelectro). I also am not a tube amp snob. Tube amps sound cool (during the 90s, Mesas were my amp of choice), but so do many solid state amps in my opinion. Heck my main amp is a Randall. It has nice cleans, does decent mid-gain tones, and can shovel out the high gain tones up to death metal levels! Unless your're willing to model your amp type, and speaker type, you will probably always be stuck with some blah, "it sounds so-so clean, and crappy under heavy distortion" sounds, due to the acoustic limitations, that having man-portable speaker systems engender. Throw in the fact that the amp circuits you are using are basic bipolar amp circuits, that produce crappy sounding harmonics when clipping (no filtering of them in the output section, nor emulation circuitry before the final amp section), and you'll probably always have the equivalent of a boom box you can play a guitar through. Most players don't care for amps like that.
In all respect, what you're attempting is cool, but rather limited, not guitar world changing.
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Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
Really.
Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
i do not think it means what i think it means.
Hi Mark, yea really. Funny though how some of the better charities give back unexpectedly and yea I've learned plenty from these forums about guitars and amps not to mention history, toys, branding and markets. But yea I have other hobbies that aren't in such blogged-view and never would have blogged guitars if they weren't blog-flamed off of ebay unexpectedly. Eg: I don't have pictures of my garden tractor with it's truck-rack, over-powered canoe, electrified kayak, or paintings on line - and the electric bike hasn't been blogged - though I did write a couple articles for EVWorld.com last year.
By the way, the ML Power Guitar is currently my favorite. It has the nicest sound. The prototype with the repaired head is interesting already. The distance of the tuner from the headnut helps bend-abilty. So that makes sense why Dave Mustang insisted Dean make the headstock the way he wanted. hmmm Now that I have something to work with I may drill some new holes in it. Match sticks work nicely to replace the decapitated pegs. Still having fun here. Hope you and at least a few others are too.
I'm getting more than from a standard acoustic guitar with electric-modled amp. That's enough for what I want in a mobile guitar
That's fair enough but why would such an audience be here anyway? Once you know the thread by name why return unless interested so how can anyone blame the poster to a therad they're not interested in? That contributes to sometimes feeling annoyed the opposite as though most seem more interested in the appearances and name-brand and so-on rather than how a guitar actually plays when and where they want.
Cool. I've done some RF too. Plus even worked audio electronics for a couple co-ops at McIntosh labs.
Started playin in 1985 and ran sound for a heavy mettle band for about a year. After that I lost interest in electric playing because I was in apartments with close neighbors and crummy equipment and the Carlos 24QK kept me happy. So not much electric since 85 till last november when building these.
A guitar case is perfect speaker-cabinetry for a good sounding modeled amp. I see a lot of imho-bad design-selections commonly selected by gimmek or miss-info in market places. McIntosh was devastated by it in the 80s since people chose speakers with holes in them over linear frequency round dispersion quality products. I'm planning to seal the backs of my guitar amps soon too.
Sure would love to see paradigm shift in gutar but I can't see how anyone could possibley feel forced by me posting about a home-build into the on-topic-thread. If there's a more appropriate forum I could enjoy that.
1 more motive to make these posts is because I've so often appreciated when others have done just that. The other day I wired a switch to the headphone jack according to someone else's project photo. Build stories are a lot easier to find in automotive projects.
I enjoy it together with a boom box on my back porch. I've also enjoyed it at friends houses, church, the guitar ctr, and look forward to parks and so-on. Boom box-sound is about 3db stronger than an acoustic that's played hard.
Thanks again for your detailed perspectives. I hope my replies are illuminating as to my motives. Do note in closing that it's certainly changed my guitar-world getting me back to electric and forcing me to notice and improve my rhythem, tuning, and so-on. So thanks also for the challenges that stimulate thought and common understanding.
Hope that can help us get past annoyances with theses posts. As far as future posting goes my intention is to simply post updates to this thread whenever the project undergoes substantial lesson-learned and accomplishments (proofs of concepts, etc). For example the head-stock modifications or embedding a transmitter maybe next. But seriously don't count on it being all that soon since I need to build 2 more electric bikes now (demand!).
Thanks,
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matou
無帽の猫
This guy has stated (over at HC) that he considers this free advertising. He is willing to take all the abuse you can give him because every post bumps his shit and keeps it on top of the forum.
As I said before, I am deeply offended by the image of even a POS guitar that has been mutliated by some idiot.
Maybe he could go peddle his wares in Coventry, Mark.
As I said before, I am deeply offended by the image of even a POS guitar that has been mutliated by some idiot.
Maybe he could go peddle his wares in Coventry, Mark.
Take Offense = Troll. Chop/cut POS guitar = technology - may suck but that's life
matou, you're trolling me and flaming me with words like that. Remember me ("do you like stuff"- "yea")?. Directly calling me some idiot - shame on you even if that were true. PLEASE STOP. BTW I've given up on the idea that anyone will buy them since it's such an image oriented market and have grown tiered myself of the flame-driven popularity for the concept. I have 3 guitars that will work for me for the foreseeable future - that's why I did what I did - not sales, blogs or paradigm shifts. Those were all secondary ideas of the benefits of maintaining a reputation after being blog-flamed. Sure when I saw new guitars with no electronics go for $4000 I though maybe something like this would be a great market till a real manufacturer noticed and did it. But even that looks unlikely now. And that wasn't the case in the PC cottege industry days I grew up in - so I do have some idealism left in me that allows me to take the bait like flames sometimes.
So I see it as your choices (everyone here not just matou). If you send me, John Watt and other hobbiest to coventry then no wonder the most expensive new guitar is just coils pots and a switch with no active electronics. EG: if HC, and general bloggers who play guitar fail to tolerate excited hobbiest contributions of ___ Yr'all _______ (something like Tube-Snobs). If I'm wrong go ahead and point out where to find your and other's build-stories and engineering patents and how these forums are more productive than I've been seeing. Like with ellengtrgrl I again wonder why are you guys reading this thread if you don't like me or seeing the worst of hack-job guitar projects?
Meanwhile thanks to your flame my time is spent in reply rather than playing like I had though I was going to do for the last 20 minutes since you called me an idiot that calls for me to reply in protection of reputation. Thus I did report your message to mark in flamishness - though defer to him and everyone else where that goes. Good luck.
This guy has stated (over at HC) that he considers this free advertising. He is willing to take all the abuse you can give him because every post bumps his shit and keeps it on top of the forum.
As I said before, I am deeply offended by the image of even a POS guitar that has been mutliated by some idiot.
Maybe he could go peddle his wares in Coventry, Mark.
matou, you're trolling me and flaming me with words like that. Remember me ("do you like stuff"- "yea")?. Directly calling me some idiot - shame on you even if that were true. PLEASE STOP. BTW I've given up on the idea that anyone will buy them since it's such an image oriented market and have grown tiered myself of the flame-driven popularity for the concept. I have 3 guitars that will work for me for the foreseeable future - that's why I did what I did - not sales, blogs or paradigm shifts. Those were all secondary ideas of the benefits of maintaining a reputation after being blog-flamed. Sure when I saw new guitars with no electronics go for $4000 I though maybe something like this would be a great market till a real manufacturer noticed and did it. But even that looks unlikely now. And that wasn't the case in the PC cottege industry days I grew up in - so I do have some idealism left in me that allows me to take the bait like flames sometimes.
So I see it as your choices (everyone here not just matou). If you send me, John Watt and other hobbiest to coventry then no wonder the most expensive new guitar is just coils pots and a switch with no active electronics. EG: if HC, and general bloggers who play guitar fail to tolerate excited hobbiest contributions of ___ Yr'all _______ (something like Tube-Snobs). If I'm wrong go ahead and point out where to find your and other's build-stories and engineering patents and how these forums are more productive than I've been seeing. Like with ellengtrgrl I again wonder why are you guys reading this thread if you don't like me or seeing the worst of hack-job guitar projects?
Meanwhile thanks to your flame my time is spent in reply rather than playing like I had though I was going to do for the last 20 minutes since you called me an idiot that calls for me to reply in protection of reputation. Thus I did report your message to mark in flamishness - though defer to him and everyone else where that goes. Good luck.
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