Yup. Forget anything nice or positive I wrote about him above.
Not even necessary, really. It's entirely fair to pass judgment after seeing the words "...his third appearance on radio host Alex Jones’s show..."I didn't read the article
Alex Jones is a dummy, but he’s an entertaining gonzo performer. You can see why he appeals to people. You should all do yourselves a favor and listen to a few episodes to get the scope and breadth of it. It’s like a concentrated shot of every kind of paranoid, contrary Gen X preoccupation there ever was or will be.
I have Gen Xers to ignore for that. Why do I need another one?
It’s worth being aware of the discourse. He’s a popular/prominent voice. He’s got the president’s ear and is pals with some of the president’s team. It’s worth getting a feel for it.
I get that, I just don't need it. I'd rather read Breitbart. If only so I can read the hysterical ranting instead of listening to it.
I get that, I just don't need it. I'd rather read Breitbart. If only so I can read the hysterical ranting instead of listening to it.
That article is a couple years old. And Corgan is almost always doing some level of kayfabe in the press.
Plus most Gen Xers don’t grok the SJW phenomenon. It’s a real ideological generational divide between millennials and younger folks who want safe spaces and inclusion vs Boomer and Gen X weirdos who believe pretty fervently in free speech and coexistence within the “marketplace of ideas” even if that enables buffoons like Jones.
Billy Corgan is a toolbox. That’s probably part of where his art comes from. Most pop musicians of any note are either known terrible people or secretly terrible people.
I expect neither decency nor measured social analysis from Billy Corgan. I expect solid alt-pop confections and fuzzy angst bombs.
Alex Jones is a dummy, but he’s an entertaining gonzo performer. You can see why he appeals to people. You should all do yourselves a favor and listen to a few episodes to get the scope and breadth of it. It’s like a concentrated shot of every kind of paranoid, contrary Gen X preoccupation there ever was or will be.
I think you're overthinking it. The divide is not generational, it's between people who go to college and those who don't
I’m pretty sure Billy being a douche isn’t what caused Jimmy, D’arcy, and Jonathan to indulge in hard drugs. I can see Billy driving people to drink, but not to smack and meth.
To expound on what I was saying (drug addiction aside), in Corgan's eyes he IS the smashing pumpkins. He wouldn't even let Iha and D'arcy record on albums. All the people he plays with are just replaceable pawns.
Iha and D’arcy played on MCIS, and Iha’s weird synthy textures are all over Adore and Machina.
Billy also is pretty clear about JC not being replaceable. Chamberlin is the musical MVP of the Pumpkins.
Iirc he cut out Iha and D'arcy on Siamese Dream and just did everything but drums himself. I thought he redid parts on mcis but I could be mistaken.
To expound on what I was saying (drug addiction aside), in Corgan's eyes he IS the smashing pumpkins. He wouldn't even let Iha and D'arcy record on albums. All the people he plays with are just replaceable pawns.
To each his own, but 1979 is probably one of my top 5 favorite songs of all time.
BTW - after reading this thread, and vaguely remembering my kids liked the Pumpkins back in the day I took out "Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness" and discovered that (to me), other than the "hits" (i.e. Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Tonight Tonight, and 1976) it sucked - at least to me. Also, his voice is amazingly analogous to fingernails on a blackboard...