We haven't discussed whiskey here in a while...

[Help!I'maRock!]

I don't know if we have any Elijah Craig 12-year fans around here, but you might have noticed they took the 12 year age statement off the front of the bottle about 6 months ago. And the latest shipment that just went out had it removed completely from the back, too. Age statements are steadily fading away.

Hmm. The bottle Smurfco bought last weekend still had the 12. Time to buy a bottle I guess.

 

[micwalt]

I need to grab a bottle this afternoon.
Someone recently suggested WhistlePig Rye, but I don't think I can justify the price tag.

 

[jaxn slim]

I need to grab a bottle this afternoon.
Someone recently suggested WhistlePig Rye, but I don't think I can justify the price tag.

Yeah, it's pricey, but it is tasty. They have variations that are even more than the basic, too. It's the first Canadian rye that I've liked.

 

[Lerxst]

I don't know if we have any Elijah Craig 12-year fans around here, but you might have noticed they took the 12 year age statement off the front of the bottle about 6 months ago. And the latest shipment that just went out had it removed completely from the back, too. Age statements are steadily fading away.

IIRC they've said in the past that while they are taking the age statement off the bottle and eventually off the back, they have no plans to change the actually change anything 'cause how the 12 fits into their portfolio. IDK, in these days of huckster spirit marketing, it doesn't sit well.

Leeme see if I can find the article.

 

[jaxn slim]

IIRC they've said in the past that while they are taking the age statement off the bottle and eventually off the back, they have no plans to change the actually change anything 'cause how the 12 fits into their portfolio. IDK, in these days of huckster spirit marketing, it doesn't sit well.

Leeme see if I can find the article.

The stuff I read said they would be using 8-12yr barrels now. In and of itself, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure there are loads of 8yr barrels that beat the pants off a lot of 12yr barrels. OTOH, when distilleries remove the age statement, the consensus seems to be that quality begins to steadily drop.

 

[Lerxst]

The stuff I read said they would be using 8-12yr barrels now. In and of itself, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure there are loads of 8yr barrels that beat the pants off a lot of 12yr barrels. OTOH, when distilleries remove the age statement, the consensus seems to be that quality begins to steadily drop.

yeah, looking for the original article, I found this just recently posted by Fred Minnick that basically they are opening up flexibility on the small batch to preserve barrels for the older/premium offerings

http://www.fredminnick.com/2016/01/20/2198/

 

[jaxn slim]

yeah, looking for the original article, I found this just recently posted by Fred Minnick that basically they are opening up flexibility on the small batch to preserve barrels for the older/premium offerings

http://www.fredminnick.com/2016/01/20/2198/

I can't say I'm unhappy about that. I'm not crazy about EC12. It's fine, but the barrel proof ones that I've had were stellar. If they could produce more of that, so it's not so terribly difficult to find, I could see the benefit.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

I can't say I'm unhappy about that. I'm not crazy about EC12. It's fine, but the barrel proof ones that I've had were stellar. If they could produce more of that, so it's not so terribly difficult to find, I could see the benefit.

It's a perfectly cromulent whiskey for $30. No more, no less.

 

[Lerxst]

I can't say I'm unhappy about that. I'm not crazy about EC12. It's fine, but the barrel proof ones that I've had were stellar. If they could produce more of that, so it's not so terribly difficult to find, I could see the benefit.

Yeah, what it really is to me is more a case of a distiller looking at how to respond to product demand that has to be anticipated far before the sale date in the face of a rabid market that doesn't seem to slowing down anytime soon.

 

[DdBob]

I've eyeballed that in the store, might give it a try next time as I'm a sucker for anything with a dog I've been diggin Wathen's over the last couyple years. Mellow Corn is nice too.

 

[jaxn slim]

I'm drinking some of the latest Orphan Barrel from Diageo, The Gifted Horse. Diageo gets a lot of shit for a variety of reasons, and these Orphan Barrels are definitely one of them. The marketing for them reeks of disingenuous storytelling and ruffles a lot of feathers among bourbon enthusiasts, but as the reviews are beginning to roll in, the begrudging acceptance is taking over. It's not cheap at $55 here locally. But it's good. Damn good. I'm probably going to get another bottle if I see another at MSRP.

 

[dodgechargerfan]

I grabbed this on my way home from a visit to the office today.
Vacation starts now.

Made from 100% Canadian two-row malted barley. We mash, ferment, and distill by hand in small batches in our small copper pot still. Our whisky is aged in ex-bourbon casks on site for a minimum of three years. Each barrel is bottled individually as a single cask offering in individually numbered bottles, offered at either cask strength or at 46% alc./vol. No additives nor colouring and no chill-filtering.

I'm still trying to figure out the flavours.
I've got the 46% version.
If you like a peaty Scotch, you'd like this even though there's no peat involved.
It just has that kind of kick to it.

 

[PunkKitty]

I went over to my brother's for Easter dinner. My niece got a bottle of this when she was working at the liquor store. $180 per bottle. I had a small glass. Good stuff.

 

[Mark Wein]

I went over to my brother's for Easter dinner. My niece got a bottle of this when she was working at the liquor store. $180 per bottle. I had a small glass. Good stuff.

That stuff is legendary. I've never had the opportunity to try it though.


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[PunkKitty]

The liquor store she works at only gets a case of 12 every year or so. The employees usually buy it before it hits the shelves.

It's very, very smooth. It almost tastes like liquid caramel. It's the smoothest bourbon I've ever had.

 

[Honkridge]

Hey Guys, just for fun can you tell me what your fav bourbon is in certain price ranges? Say under 30, then under 45, under 60, over 60....

Kinda wanna see if a consensus emerges.

 

[jbj]

Hey Guys, just for fun can you tell me what your fav bourbon is in certain price ranges? Say under 30, then under 45, under 60, over 60....

Kinda wanna see if a consensus emerges.

I save my money and buy some real whisky at every price point you mention there

 

[jaxn slim]

Hey Guys, just for fun can you tell me what your fav bourbon is in certain price ranges? Say under 30, then under 45, under 60, over 60....

Kinda wanna see if a consensus emerges.

Mine varies from time to time, but here is where my head is now:
Under $30 - Old Grand Dad 114 proof
Under $45 - Four Roses Single Barrel 100 proof
Under $60 - Smooth Ambler Old Scout Single Barrel (barrel proof)
Under $100 - Four Roses Barrel Select (barrel proof)

Over $100 is too hard to pick. It makes my head spin because there are so many stellar ones.

 

[jp_nyc]

Under $30 I'd go with Fireside or Bulleit. Fireside is only 80 proof so it's nice for sipping a big pour. Bulleit tastes better, but it's 90 proof so you have to check yourself.

Right now I'm drinking Wild Turkey 101. It looks like a motherfucker. Definitely not an everyday bourbon.

Over $30…nope. I’m not paying that much to get a buzz.

 

[Honkridge]

Mine varies from time to time, but here is where my head is now:
Under $30 - Old Grand Dad 114 proof
Under $45 - Four Roses Single Barrel 100 proof
Under $60 - Smooth Ambler Old Scout Single Barrel (barrel proof)
Under $100 - Four Roses Barrel Select (barrel proof)

Over $100 is too hard to pick. It makes my head spin because there are so many stellar ones.

Cool!

I'll have to try that Old Grand Dad. Smooth Ambler is one I haven't tried either. I don't think I've ever had a bourbon over 100 bucks though!