We haven't discussed whiskey here in a while...

mongooz said:
believe it or not, they (daniels company) don't want to be called "bourbon", but instead Tennessee Whisky. it all happened when prohibition was repealed in 1933. there were a lot of new conditions created by the gov't and catagories of alcoholic beverages. the us gov't wanted to force JD to call it bourbon, but they argued that they had proprietary processes that make it NOT bourbon. in the end, the gov't allowed them to call it Tenn. Whisky instead.
JD wanted a whole new catagory called Tenn. Whisky, but the gov't declined.

has nothing to do with not being made just like bourbon, it is. they just don't want it called that.
(i know this because i just looked it up, before i posted that^^. i always thought it was because they weren't in Kentucky or something.)
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Marketing! Yeah, legally..as far as the Feds are concerned...Tenn. whiskey isn't a thing and it's just Bourbon produced in the state of Tennessee.
Usually folks do think it's either because it's not from Kentucky, the Lincoln process, or some other nonsense.
 
Lerxst said:
Why's that?

I always like to hear folks interpretation of this topic
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JD's official answer is because "it is charcoal filtered between distilling and barreling" (the "Lincoln County Process") and, while not barred by the bourbon naming rules, filtering isn't part of the "recognized" bourbon process and distinguishes JD from the rest. But that's just their way of justifying the marketing, there are a handful of charcoal filter bourbons.

But, from personal experience, if traveling in Europe, Asia and South America, JD is the only "bourbon" on hand in most bars. I always shrug at the cork sniffers on Reddit who wait in line for hours to pay too much for the mediocre small batch du jour, or discuss how you should and shouldn't drink bourbon, but won't touch JD.
 
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JD makes me nauseous. I don't know why. I don't dislike it, but I can't drink it. I prefer Larceny or Benchmark these days anyway.
 
Has anybody tried this yet? :embarrassed: :ack:

The photo isn’t very sharp, but yeah that says “peanut butter whiskey.”

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https://www.skrewballwhiskey.com/#home
 
I have a Peanut Butter Whiskey from a another maker. Nutt Bar.
Haven't tried it yet.. I should. I've had it for about 5 months..

I did try this last night.
I like it
Lots of peat and overall a spicy taste - almost like there's peppers in there for heat.

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dodgechargerfan said:
I have a Peanut Butter Whiskey from a another maker. Nutt Bar.
Haven't tried it yet.. I should. I've had it for about 5 months..

I did try this last night.
I like it
Lots of peat and overall a spicy taste - almost like there's peppers in there for heat.

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Never heard of this version and peaty really isn't something you should be getting in a Highland malt imo but glad you like it.

Mrs JBJ has floated the idea of a dog friendly holiday to Islay next Summer. I need to get her a driving licence before then :grin:
 
mongooz said:
believe it or not, they (daniels company) don't want to be called "bourbon", but instead Tennessee Whisky. it all happened when prohibition was repealed in 1933. there were a lot of new conditions created by the gov't and catagories of alcoholic beverages. the us gov't wanted to force JD to call it bourbon, but they argued that they had proprietary processes that make it NOT bourbon. in the end, the gov't allowed them to call it Tenn. Whisky instead.
JD wanted a whole new catagory called Tenn. Whisky, but the gov't declined.

has nothing to do with not being made just like bourbon, it is. they just don't want it called that.
(i know this because i just looked it up, before i posted that^^. i always thought it was because they weren't in Kentucky or something.)
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Technically bourbon doesn't have to be made in Kentucky (though I prefer it). Needs to be made from at least 51% corn mash, aged in new charred oak barrels and have a proof of 125 or less.
 
*barrel entry proof of up to 125.

Bottling proof can be higher. I know that's what you meant. Just clarifying because internet.
 
I think it was Minnick that said something along the lines of JD laughs all the way to the bank every time people dork out over if Jack is bourbon or not, cause they sell like 20 extra cases.:grin:
 
I just had a dram of starward two fold and it's a really interesting combo of a malted barley sprit fermented with brewers yeast and a wheat spirit, separately aged in red wine barrels then blended. Very tasty and quite affordable. I've had a few different drams from starward and liked them all so far.
 
The singer and guitarist of Wide Mouth Mason got to taste-test an ultra-limited run 60-year-old scotch.
Each of the only 360 decanters of it worldwide retails for $29,300 USD.

I’ve nagged him for a review, but he is doing it for his wife who is a lifestyle brand editor and the review may be held for that first.

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Cool that your pal got to try it out but there's a major law of diminishing returns with whisky and it comes WAY before 60 years in cask / 30,000 dollars spent.

But I digress, you've put me in the mood for a dram :baimun:
 
dodgechargerfan said:
The singer and guitarist of Wide Mouth Mason got to taste-test an ultra-limited run 60-year-old scotch.
Each of the only 360 decanters of it worldwide retails for $29,300 USD.

I’ve nagged him for a review, but he is doing it for his wife who is a lifestyle brand editor and the review may be held for that first.

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what is that.....a 2 ounce decanter.....for $30K ?? :facepalm:
 
That sure makes the $3,500 per bottle Pappy Van Winkle 15 Year look like a steal by comparison.
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I'd love to taste a dram just one time.
 
Was gifted a really nice bottle of FEW’s collab with Black Rebel Motorcycle Club to celebrate a job change by my wife. Had some this evening and it’s a good un!

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So, this guy says you can a pretty good representation of Pappy at a fraction of the cost.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle...ecipe-as-pappy-van-winkle/ss-AA12FhDO#image=4

I’d like to say I’m going to put it to the test but I’ve never tried Pappy.
So, I’ll just have to see if it’s any good. I picked up my order today.

I also got a bottle of Blanton's Original Single Barrel Select (1 Bottle Limit) and it’s sold out here already.
 
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