OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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And it was on primetime on the top of a car featured in a popular show. As a kid from the PNW, I always thought that was weird, and thought that Skynyrd's use of that flag was weird too. But I tried to understand their point of view about it being something historic and it not being about slaves. Still thought it was weird. The speech that Tig posted by New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu struck a chord with me in that regard. Curious as to your thoughts on it as someone who grew up in the South.

It's like everything else, it isn't clear cut one or the other. The Civil War was a unique war for our country. Most of the folks in the south didn't own slaves, but they were tricked into fighting for the rich landowners much as the GOP has tricked rural folks for decades into voting for them. My great grandfather's grandfather was killed fighting for the South and he was dirt poor, definitely not a slave owner. So to some folks (not me) when you talk about tearing down these statues and things, they feel you are minimizing their ancestors and what they died for. I get their view but it is time to move on from that. There is too much hate associated with all of it. I have no issue with general Civil War monuments, but I do with the ones dedicated to southern generals and figures. As we move further and further away from it, it seems like folks for the most part are doing the right thing. As you mentioned, the Dukes of Hazzard had it in every episode and that wouldn't fly today. I honestly believe there are some folks where they feel it is a "heritage" thing and for some reason they don't connect the dots to racism and slavery. And there are also a ton of racist assholes who use the "heritage" line to spew and display their hate.
 
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/415868924841189376
from 2013:

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Trump Budget seen as slap in face to rural voters that elected him. Idaho Statesman.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article152226172.html

and this from a couple days ago. Sen. Simpson would believe Comey over Trump.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article151317987.html
You know what I get from that?

"Government handouts are bad. Unless they are being handed out to me and my people. Then it's a disaster that the government (who we want less of and to not pay any taxes to) has quit giving us money".
 
This wasn't a secret. It was announced by the South Korean media weeks ago but got overshadowed by Trump's weird lies about other ship movements in the Pacific.
We're talking exact location within 48 hours versus a general location two weeks ago.
No, that is NOT the same thing. Sub location intel is among the most sensitive and guarded we have.
 
You know what I get from that?

"Government handouts are bad. Unless they are being handed out to me and my people. Then it's a disaster that the government (who we want less of and to not pay any taxes to) has quit giving us money".
Yup. Morons. "We here in I-dey-ho want to be INDEPENDENT and do it the I-dey-ho way. Stay out "our" federal lands, you feds! And we don't want your medicaid money for our ill and ailing. But give me my farm subsidies!"

At least Simpson wants to look like he is on the right side of history about Comey and Trump. Risch, not so much.
 
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