OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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virginia has seven republican districts and four democrat districts. sounds pretty red to me.

Districts 6&9 are real powerhouses!!

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gop house members just blocked a vote to appoint an independent investigation.

yes, because clearly getting a bj and lying about it is way worse than any one of the numerous impeachable offenses trump has done lately.

party before country.
 
gop house members just blocked a vote to appoint an independent investigation.

yes, because clearly getting a bj and lying about it is way worse than any one of the numerous impeachable offenses trump has done lately.

party before country.
and the surprise for that kind of turn out is what? :grin:
 
virginia has seven republican districts and four democrat districts. sounds pretty red to me.

Check the population of those districts. I think 6 and 9 have about 20 people in them. Since '82 we've had 6 Democratic governors, 3 republican. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine. Obama won both times so did Clinton. Aren't you from Pa and live in Ohio? Mr red state :grin:
 
Check the population of those districts. I think 6 and 9 have about 20 people in them. Since '82 we've had 6 Democratic governors, 3 republican. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine. Obama won both times so did Clinton. Aren't you from Pa and live in Ohio? Mr red state :grin:
What do you and VTF know? It's not like you actually live there.
 
What do you and VTF know? It's not like you actually live there.

I know, it isn't like I have lived all over this state for the last 46 years or anything. Well there was the 3 year Florida experiment in there, so I guess only 43 years.
 
Check the population of those districts. I think 6 and 9 have about 20 people in them. Since '82 we've had 6 Democratic governors, 3 republican. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine. Obama won both times so did Clinton. Aren't you from Pa and live in Ohio? Mr red state :grin:

as far as Pa......back when the steel industry was cooking along, it wasn't anywhere near as red as now. ohio just sucks. i won't be retiring here. but my real problem is that when i retire i won't be able to afford to move to and live in australia :facepalm:
 
as far as Pa......back when the steel industry was cooking along, it wasn't anywhere near as red as now. ohio just sucks. i won't be retiring here. but my real problem is that when i retire i won't be able to afford to move to and live in australia :facepalm:

This is our retirement destination... Melbourne specifically. I'll live in a trailer if I have to. :embarrassed:
 
The Atlantic has an interesting piece about the meltdown:

"Trump is in no position to save himself. He knows little about his work and shows little interest in learning it—Reuters reports that National Security Council staffers insert his name at periodic intervals into briefing papers to keep his attention—and his staff, an oddball mix of true believers, political rookies, and fourth-rate hangers on, does not have the chops to whip him into shape."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/all-the-kings-men/526980/


"This drip-drip of legal developments hints at why Trump faces a different challenge in recovering from his present situation than he did from bouncing back on the campaign, or during his famously up-and-down business career. As a businessman, Trump could cut bait or declare bankruptcy and start over again. As a candidate, he could simply change the subject, or wait for Hillary Clinton to hand him a gift. As president, however, there is no bankruptcy and no way to walk away. Legal investigations are slow and methodical, but they are also harder to distract than voter attention. If anyone can survive the present crisis, it must be Trump. But he seems increasingly frustrated and hard-pressed for ideas that don’t make his situation worse."
 
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