OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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Oh c'mon We are top tier in all kinds of categories!

Coastline
Murder
Incarceration
Rich - Poor differentiation
Debt
Sports!
Obesity
Kardashians
Movies (nods Asia)
And of course, length of our presidential elections
 
Flamencology said:
And the 'shining beacon' was an aspiration, not a reality. Ask a black person, a gay man, a trans woman, etc.

By any international standard or index of civil rights and human development, the US hasn't led the world in my lifetime. For a president to acknowledge this is a good thing, not a bad thing.
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I was watching the PBS American Experience piece on the Freedom Riders in 1961. As bad as things seem now, watching that piece reminds me very well that things the US has never fully lived up to that ideal. And, that the fact that the US did not currently live up to the ideal did not stop those people from keeping the dream and attempting to move the ball forward in actually attaining the promises within that dream. I suppose the same is true now. That all sounds preachy, as I look over what I just typed. But, other than despair, what other option is there? I suppose apathy.
 
Another option: Moving to Canada.



"During Thursday's episode of ABC's daytime talk-fest "The View," Raven-Symonè made a bold declaration -- and a promise that we will hold her to.

"My confession for this election is if any Republican gets nominated I'm gonna move to Canada with my entire family," she asserted.

Asked if she was joking, Raven-Symone declared, "I already have my ticket. I literally bought my ticket, I swear.""

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘t...nated’/ar-BBq07G6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

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Flamencology said:
The 'both sides suck' mentality bothers me, to some degree.

Yes, it's true, but that doesn't mean that both options are both equally shitty. I'd rather be stabbed in the arm than shot in the chest.
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The frustration is understandable, especially when you realize that most candidates (at many levels of government) on both sides of the aisle are bought and paid for before they step foot in their elected office.
I gave up on the left and right years ago. There is only up or down/forward or backward.
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sonik said:
Another option: Moving to Canada.



"During Thursday's episode of ABC's daytime talk-fest "The View," Raven-Symonè made a bold declaration -- and a promise that we will hold her to.

"My confession for this election is if any Republican gets nominated I'm gonna move to Canada with my entire family," she asserted.

Asked if she was joking, Raven-Symone declared, "I already have my ticket. I literally bought my ticket, I swear.""

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘the-view-raven-symone-vows-to-leave-us-‘if-any-republican-gets-nominated’/ar-BBq07G6?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

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Of course, a Republican always gets nominated, so she might as well use that ticket, since she sucks at understanding our election process. Nice catch, Sonik; I know you highlighted that word.
 
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To the point that things have not been all bright and shiny, pretty much ever. Just the social media, what serves for press, and the exploitation of the above seems to make it appear so much worse.
 
BlockInlay said:
Meanwhile, we all pay little to no attention to the election of senators and members of congress. Those are the elections that really matter. The POTUS spectacle is just another sleight of hand that draws our collective attention away from what's really important.
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Which is why I am stunned at the reaction to a lot of what Trump says: like the POTUS works like a monarchy.
 
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LeftyTom said:
Which is why I a new stunned at the reaction to a lot of what Trump says: like the POTUS works like a monarchy.
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That’s how most people run for POTUS. Everybody else is making grandiose promises, too. Nobody even mentions congress.
 
jp_nyc said:
That’s how most people run for POTUS. Everybody else is making grandiose promises, too. Nobody even mentions congress.
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exactly. 90% of what all these assclowns are saying isn't even in the realm of their authority.
what pisses me off a lot is the lack of the media calling them on it. especially at the debates.

(debate mediator) "excuse me mr. cruz, but isn't that the authority of congress?"
then let's see them squirm out of it.
i am absolutely convinced that if the media actually did THEIR job, we would have significantly better candidates because the assclowns would not want to be humiliated every time they opened their f'ing mouths. the assclowns simply wouldn't run.
 
The public controls the media, not the other way around. It's just business.

There's nothing to stop millions of people from turning off Fox News and buying a subscription to The New Yorker.

If people did that, you'd see a very different level of journalism.
 
The good news is that we won't have to hear the usual "let's abolish the IRS/overhaul the tax code" bullshit 9 months from now...
Until the next election show, um, cycle. That little bait and forget show is so old hat.
 
And yeah, the SCOTUS is absolutely going to be a huge factor in this year's presidential election one way or another, regardless of congressional elections.
 
Flamencology said:
The public controls the media, not the other way around. It's just business.
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The government controls the american media because it control media access to government. When GHW Bush ran for president GW Bush kept a list of every reporter that pissed off the family. Said reporters were then blackballed from White House functions. The Pentagon does the same thing, which is why Barbara Starr on CNN always sounds like she’s just reading a press release and generally avoids topics like war crimes and military spending boondoggles. The best example of this was the Stanley Mcchrystal PR disaster. Army officers got so used to misbehaving around reporters and not having it reported that when a reporter finally did his job it got a four-star general fired.
 
jp_nyc said:
The government controls the american media because it control media access to government. When GHW Bush ran for president GW Bush kept a list of every reporter that pissed off the family. Said reporters were then blackballed from White House functions. The Pentagon does the same thing, which is why Barbara Starr on CNN always sounds like she’s just reading a press release and generally avoids topics like war crimes and military spending boondoggles. The best example of this was the Stanley Mcchrystal PR disaster. Army officers got so used to misbehaving around reporters and not having it reported that when a reporter finally did his job it got a four-star general fired.
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maybe so, but the candidates are not the government. the media could do a MUCH better job calling them out on their bullshit.

where are Woodward and Berstein when you need them?
 
mongooz said:
maybe so, but the candidates are not the government. the media could do a MUCH better job calling them out on their bullshit.

where are Woodward and Berstein when you need them?
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Well, Woodward is still working with The Washington Post, which is still a good paper.

But its circulation of 1/4 the size of The O'Reilly Factor's viewership.
 
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