I think my main problem with The Lion King is that Simba was a stupid moron and an idiot

wok said:
:secret:It’s a kid’s feelgood movie...
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actually Disney designs them for kids and adults. There are special adult (not dirty) jokes in every Disney animated feature. Kids won’t see it if adults can’t sit through it without getting entertained.
 
The songwriting in those early-90s Disney movies were top-fucking-notch. Howard Ashman was brilliant — Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, and some of Aladdin. Broadway at its best. Alas, AIDS took away a generation of talent, so we’ve ended up with more generations who believe that Wicked is good, that the Toy Story franchise is good, etc.
 
Flamencology said:
The songwriting in those early-90s Disney movies were top-fucking-notch. Howard Ashman was brilliant — Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, and some of Aladdin. Broadway at its best. Alas, AIDS took away a generation of talent, so we’ve ended up with more generations who believe that Wicked is good, that the Toy Story franchise is good, etc.
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Totally agree, and imagine what the Lion King soundtrack would have been like if they hadn’t cut the song “Simba, Prince of Dunces” from the final film.
 
smurfco said:
I mean I know he was just a little lion cub but it was pretty obvious that Scar killed his father, and that it wasn't his fault. But then he runs off into the Serengeti like some fuckin' dweeb with a wild hair across his asshole and makes friends with these two losers who are clearly a bad influence. They fart around all day like stupid idiots while the Pridelands go to shit under Scar.

Nala finds Simba via a completely chance encounter and convinces his bum ass to get back to his rightful place as king and fix things, which he does extremely reluctantly and only after he hallucinates Mufasa in some clouds. This moron comes back and finds everything ruined and then Scar confesses that he killed Mufasa, which like I said should have been obvious to this imbecile Simba from the get-go. But then Simba defeats Scar and decides to let him live? Why would you take that chance unless you were God's perfect idiot named Simba the stupid moron who nearly ruined Pride Rock and got everyone killed. What an absolute goon.
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Can you feel the love tonight? How about tomorrow night?
 
Tralfaz said:
Isn't that the plot of every Disney cartoon? Some utter fuckwit screws everything up and then needs a string of unlikely miracles to save the day. Along the way, there's laughs, love, and just a little bit of growing up.
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And don’t forget the tragedy that takes the kid(‘)s(‘) parents to get the story going.
 
I hated the original Lion King so much. It was the stupidest plot I had ever seen. All those animals getting along with the lions, and the lions acting like some sort of stewards of the jungle. TBH Scar was the most lion like character. They would have been devouring all the prey they could get their paws on, and wouldn't give two shits about the plight of any other animal outside of their pride.
 
smurfco said:
I mean I know he was just a little lion cub but it was pretty obvious that Scar killed his father, and that it wasn't his fault. But then he runs off into the Serengeti like some fuckin' dweeb with a wild hair across his asshole and makes friends with these two losers who are clearly a bad influence. They fart around all day like stupid idiots while the Pridelands go to shit under Scar.

Nala finds Simba via a completely chance encounter and convinces his bum ass to get back to his rightful place as king and fix things, which he does extremely reluctantly and only after he hallucinates Mufasa in some clouds. This moron comes back and finds everything ruined and then Scar confesses that he killed Mufasa, which like I said should have been obvious to this imbecile Simba from the get-go. But then Simba defeats Scar and decides to let him live? Why would you take that chance unless you were God's perfect idiot named Simba the stupid moron who nearly ruined Pride Rock and got everyone killed. What an absolute goon.
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So the moral is kids who watch the movie should follow the eye for an eye rule and revenge their father's death.

The natural response of a youngling would be to run so that their life was not in danger. After all the original intent was Mufasa did not kill Scar. He let him go which backfired on him. Yes Simba went to a place that he was told not to by his parents but what young child listens to their parents to begin with. After all, Simba trusted Scar as he was an adult and a relative.
 
As a simple reminder for you guys...
wok said:
:secret:It’s a kid’s feelgood movie...
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rickenvox said:
actually Disney designs them for kids and adults. There are special adult (not dirty) jokes in every Disney animated feature. Kids won’t see it if adults can’t sit through it without getting entertained.
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True, but in the end, it's still a kids' movie. Those jokes are there, as you said, to entertain parents sitting through it with their kids. Now let's go analyze the impossible physics of Marvel movies, shall we?
 
USian Pie said:
If you make a live-action version of an animated movie but it’s 90% CGI, haven’t you just made another animated movie?
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Yes. But, to be fair, so many of the Disney hits borrowed heavily from live-action classics to begin with, so... :shrug:

I mean, nobody freaked out in the 90s, bitter that Aladdin was basically a rehash of The Thief of Baghdad but with great tunes and memorable work from Robin Williams and Gilbert Gottfried.

Anyway, none of this trash talk would matter at all if the remakes were actually good movies. You’d have a good answer to the question “why?” right there on the spot.

Instead, we just end up with idiots who grew up loving Vince Vaughan as Norman Bates.
 
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